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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 145, Issue 30
From: "Tom" <wa8wzg@wa8wzg.net>
Reply-to: wa8wzg@wa8wzg.net
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:19:52 +0000
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I will be operating as a rover,, wa8wzg/r,,,, 6,2,222, 432,, Dm 34 and 35 on 
Saturday, Dm 33 and 32 on Sunday,,, I will have digital capabilities, so hope 
to catch some of you on the bands!! Most locations will be 4000 feet to 6000 
feet and decent antennas , skeds accepted.. Thanks 
73's 
 Tom

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Today's Topics:

   1. K7XC/R QRV This Weekend - EM12/13/23/22 Grid Corner
      (Tim Marek via VHFcontesting)
   2. Re: Jan VHF Contest (Willis Parr)
   3. N4JQQ - Jan Test (Crownhaven)
   4. JAN VHF CONTEST (jon jones)
   5. FW: [VHF] New rules--and even newer rules (James Duffey)
   6. VE3OIL/r January Sweepstakes (russell beech)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:03:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Tim Marek via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
To: "VHFcontesting@contesting.com" <VHFcontesting@contesting.com>,
        VHF   Reflector <VHF@w6yx.stanford.edu>
Subject: [VHFcontesting] K7XC/R QRV This Weekend - EM12/13/23/22 Grid
        Corner
Message-ID:
        
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Saturday I will be doing a gentle 4 grid rover around the 
nearby EM 12/13/23/22 Grid Corner.
I took the antenna rack from my old rover (Mazda B4000) 
thats been laying around for over 10 or 15? years and with slight modifications 
installed in ito the from of the bed of my 
aging 1990 Ford Ranger. It will hold 2 masts of antennasgoing down the road, 
with the yagi's on the Drivers side &the loop on the passenger side with a coax 
switch on 2M 
 to switch between them.?
6M - 100W and KQ loop at 12'
2M - 50W and KQ Loop at 10' or a 4 ele yagi at 12'
432 - 35W and 8 ele yagi at 10'?This isn't my first rodeo, just the first time 
back as a ROVER"during a contest" in quite a few years.?
I'll start the event in EM13, then on to EM23, EM22, and endingup back in my 
home grid in EM12. Having never been to thesegrids before I'll just do it old 
school and improvise on the way,trusting my gut as to where to stop or not. 

See you on the air!
73s de Tim - K7XC - EM12ur... sk

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler?Albert Einstein

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:29:14 -0600
From: Willis Parr <wparr@millerenviro.com>
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Jan VHF Contest
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Due to family commitments, K0AXX/R will not be along for the ride. 
If time permits, I will try to fire up the shack and work as much as possible 
from em20. 
I have redesigned my roving antennas and may be able to burn them in this 
weekend to better prep for June.
Good luck to all and thanks to all who strive to improve this great activity!

73 de Will, K0AXX

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>   1. Jan VHF SS (Phil, K3TUF) (Phil Theis)
>   2. Manufactured QSO's (Les Rayburn)
>   3. JAN VHF CONTEST - N3NGE (Bill Shaw)
>   4. Re: JAN VHF CONTEST - N3NGE (Joel Harrison)
>   5. W4NH  in January VHF Contest (Ron Rogers)
>   6. Re: Manufactured QSO's (Walt Murphy)
>   7. KE7IHG - Limited Rover JAN VHF Contest (Steve Stahl)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 01:36:18 -0500
>From: Phil Theis <phil@k3tuf.com>
>To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] Jan VHF SS (Phil, K3TUF)
>Message-ID: <54C09A62.3050400@k3tuf.com>
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>I will be QRV for the contest this weekend on all bands from 50 through 
>24192 and am open for schedules for long distance contacts, including 
>wsjt.   Good luck to all.
>73,
>Phil K3TUF
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 01:15:04 -0600
>From: Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
>To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] Manufactured QSO's
>Message-ID: <54C0A378.8070707@highnoonfilm.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
>Just to be clear, I totally agree with Marshall. You either work them, 
>or you don't. Especially true on VHF, where skeds are often the rule 
>outside of contacts. I've tried for hours to work another station on 2M, 
>222, or 432---knowing full well their entire callsign, grid square, beam 
>heading, and frequency. Knowing in fact that they were listening hard 
>for me.
>
>Often you hear a bit of CW, or on WSJT you get a decode on a single 
>sequence, then wait for hours for that next bit of data to come through. 
>More often that not, it doesn't...and you feel disappointed, but resolve 
>to try again another day. Neither station logs it as a QSO. VHF 
>operators have a lot of integrity in that regard. You either work them, 
>or you don't.
>
>That's why Internet spotting on VHF is so important. It greatly reduces 
>the amount of time that you spend listening to white noise, and looking 
>for stations to work.
>
>I dare say that HF contesting would have ceased to exist a  long time 
>ago if the majority of operators had to spend hours searching for a 
>single station to work.
>
>
>-- 
>--
>73,
>
>Les Rayburn, N1LF
>121 Mayfair Park
>Maylene, AL 35114
>EM63nf
>
>6M VUCC #1712
>AMSAT #38965
>Grid Bandits #222
>Southeastern VHF Society
>Central States VHF Society Life Member
>Six Club #2484
>
>Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:50:01 -0500
>From: Bill Shaw <billk3ege@gmail.com>
>To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] JAN VHF CONTEST - N3NGE
>Message-ID: <1FCECEFA-3322-4281-B547-32C3A09DF52F@gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset=us-ascii
>
>N3NGE will be QRV in the VHF Contest this coming weekend on bands 6 meters 
>thru 10 Ghz from FN20bd
>
>Looking forward to working many of you
>
>Good luck to all
>
>73
>Bill K3EGE for N3NGE 
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:11:22 -0600
>From: "Joel Harrison" <w5zn@w5zn.org>
>To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] JAN VHF CONTEST - N3NGE
>Message-ID:
>       <9c805495197ae6a4374d83daccf10fc8.squirrel@just120.justhost.com>
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>
>W5ZN will be on in a casual Single Op from EM45 Arkansas 50 thru 432.
>
>
>www.w5zn.org
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:46:57 -0500
>From: "Ron Rogers" <ww8rr@charter.net>
>To: <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>, <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>,
>       <SVHFS@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] W4NH  in January VHF Contest
>Message-ID: <j2mo1p00E130PBL012moPu@charter.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii"
>
>The W4NH Fourlanders Contest team will again be in operation this weekend
>for the ARRL Jan. VHF contest. BUT....since it is January, we will be
>operating from our north Georgia location in EM84ao.
>
>Besides the usual 50-144-222-432 operation with large arrays and QRO power,
>W4ZST has also dusted off the microwave antennas and brought out the gear
>for 902-1296-2304. So we will also have that capability and look forward to
>QSOs with you on those upper bands !
>
>
>Ron
>WW8RR
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:28:17 -0500
>From: "Walt Murphy" <n2wm@centurylink.net>
>To: "Les Rayburn" <les@highnoonfilm.com>,
>       <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Manufactured QSO's
>Message-ID: <5507EBBD8C7447E3BD59FDD07E4744E2@n2wmdesktop>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=response
>
>  I have been a VHF contester since 1970
>
>Very seldom have I used my call. I generally have been an Op at a multiop 
>effort.
>
> Yes we either work them or we don't!
>
>  Any way we coordinate our activities improves our chances of making a 
>valid contact on any band we operate.
>
>  If two stations "AGREE" to log each on a certain band at a certain time it 
>does not matter if they decided it a week before
>the contest via the US Mail or during the contest using Cell Phones. They 
>are conspiring together which we as a group neither
>condone or encourage but it will occur. Very infrequently I hope.
>
>  I still think the operator or group who puts together a good station and 
>uses all there skills to make the difficult contact a reality
>should use all tools available to make that happen.
>
>             73 & DX
>
>                           Walt Murphy    N2WM    FN21OC
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Les Rayburn" <les@highnoonfilm.com>
>To: <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 2:15 AM
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] Manufactured QSO's
>
>
>> Just to be clear, I totally agree with Marshall. You either work them, or 
>> you don't. Especially true on VHF, where skeds are often the rule outside 
>> of contacts. I've tried for hours to work another station on 2M, 222, or 
>> 432---knowing full well their entire callsign, grid square, beam heading, 
>> and frequency. Knowing in fact that they were listening hard for me.
>>
>> Often you hear a bit of CW, or on WSJT you get a decode on a single 
>> sequence, then wait for hours for that next bit of data to come through. 
>> More often that not, it doesn't...and you feel disappointed, but resolve 
>> to try again another day. Neither station logs it as a QSO. VHF operators 
>> have a lot of integrity in that regard. You either work them, or you 
>> don't.
>>
>> That's why Internet spotting on VHF is so important. It greatly reduces 
>> the amount of time that you spend listening to white noise, and looking 
>> for stations to work.
>>
>> I dare say that HF contesting would have ceased to exist a  long time ago 
>> if the majority of operators had to spend hours searching for a single 
>> station to work.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> --
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> EM63nf
>>
>> 6M VUCC #1712
>> AMSAT #38965
>> Grid Bandits #222
>> Southeastern VHF Society
>> Central States VHF Society Life Member
>> Six Club #2484
>>
>> Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
>>
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>
>
>
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>
>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 08:58:11 -0800
>From: Steve Stahl <ke7ihg@gmail.com>
>To: "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <VHFcontesting@contesting.com>
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] KE7IHG - Limited Rover JAN VHF Contest
>Message-ID:
>       <CAGyh3WMu6xFL1ABOtbMerKd=+MpLLo-FG05b4-+c96a=tE_Qnw@mail.gmail.com>
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>
>-- Hello everyone,
> KE7IHG/R will be operating Limited Rover from the Northwest.I'm also using
>APRS for the first time.
>6m/2m/70cm fm &ssb     1.25 fm only.
>Saturday I will start in CN98, then CN88,CN87,CN86,CN77. IT is possible
>that CN96 could be worked but weather & time will play
>a key factor.
>Sunday should be CN76,CN86,CN84 and then home to CN85.
>ALL PLANS ARE GOOD UNTIL MURPHY STRIKES!
>
>Good luck to all...Lets hope for an E opening.
>
>Steve Stahl
>
>KE7IHG / Rover
>KE7IHG
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:58:26 -0600
From: Crownhaven <crownhaven@bellsouth.net>
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: [VHFcontesting] N4JQQ - Jan Test
Message-ID: <54C13A42.103@bellsouth.net>
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N4JQQ, EM55bd, will be casual op.  Six, two, 222, 432, 902, 1.2, 2.3.

Steve


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 19:05:06 +0000
From: jon jones <n0jk@hotmail.com>
To: "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: [VHFcontesting] JAN VHF CONTEST
Message-ID: <BLU175-W7F88355D7EAA361C780C890490@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


 Will be QRV on 6, 2 and 432 s/o QRP portable from EM18. Excellent location 
from a high point in the Flint Hills of KS. 
 
KB0QGT/r will be running the "teen" EM grids across KS on 6, 2, 222 and 432.
 
Good luck to all.
 
N0JK
                                          

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:15:26 -0700
From: James Duffey <jamesduffey@comcast.net>
To: VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Cc: James Duffey <jamesduffey@comcast.net>
Subject: [VHFcontesting] FW: [VHF] New rules--and even newer rules
Message-ID: <900D659C-EE2D-4262-990D-F10F6EAE1300@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

N6NB is having problems posting to this group so he asked me to post this for 
him. Lots of exciting things happening in VHF contesting. More on this after 
the January Contest. - Duffey KK6MC

Begin Wayne?s e-mail:

I?d like to thank Duffey (KK6MC) for spreading the news that the ARRL 
Board of Directors has approved the new VHF contest rules in essentially 
the same form as the draft proposal that was placed online for public 
comment in the fall.  (I understand that there has been some fine-tuning 
and wordsmithing in response to suggestions from the amateur community.)

There could well be a lot of confusion this weekend under the old "new"
rules--and again in June under a very different set of even newer rules
that have now been approved by the ARRL board.  Here's what has
happened, as best I can decipher it.

A new set of rules was announced in December for the January contest.
Those rules will apply ONLY in January.  Still another set of rules (the ones
just approved by the ARRL board) will go into effect in June.


During January 2015 (this weekend) here are the highlights of what is new:

*Three new categories are being created:  single operator high power unlimited,
single operator low power unlimited and single operator portable unlimited.

*In those three categories and in the multioperator categories, "assistance" 
will
be allowed.  But rovers who use assistance will be moved to the unlimited rover
category where they will be ineligible for the club competition.

*Assistance is limited to passive monitoring of spotting information, with no
"self-spotting" allowed.


Starting in June 2015, here is what will happen:

*The three new "unlimited" categories being created for the January contest will
cease to exist. Those three categories will be in effect for only one contest.

*EVERYONE in all categories, including rovers, will be free to use assistance 
under
a very broad new definition of assistance.

*"Self-spotting" will not only be allowed--it will be encouraged as a way of 
increasing
interest in the contests.  It will be okay to self-spot on the internet, via 
repeaters,
via email and telephone.  Anyone can monitor anyone else's spots by any means,
including APRS.  If those who control a repeater or an online reflector don't 
mind,
it will be okay to post or announce something like, "this is N6NB/R.  I just 
arrived on
Frazier Mountain, DM04ms, and I'm looking for contacts on 144.220" or "I'm QRV
on WSJT right now.  Anybody wanna run with me?"  Anyone can monitor and post in
any amateur or non-amateur medium of communication.

***

My reaction to this:  it is clearly intended to stimulate a new level of 
interest in VHF+
contests.  There is a precedent for this in how the 10 GHZ and Up Contest works 
in
California and adjoining states.  For many years most of the real-time 
coordination
has been on an inter-linked repeater network (the Cactus system), at the 
invitation
of the system's management.  If you monitor Cactus during the 10 GHz contest,
what you will hear may sound like chaos, but it's a well-disciplined kind of 
chaos.
Everybody makes really brief announcements of their location and availability.  
It's
impossible to listen for long without getting caught up in the enthusiasm.  
It's fast
and intense.  You have to be quick to get a word in edgewise.  It's NOT boring.

The result:  More logs are often received (with more unique call signs in them) 
from
the sixth call area than from any other call area.  That is almost never true 
in the
other VHF contests.  The bands are w-a-y too quiet out here during most VHF
contests.  Unless six meters is open, VHF contests are almost never fast and
intense out here.

I'd like to thank W9XA, the chairman of the board-level VHF Contest 
Revitalization
Committee, for moving so quickly to get this proposal to the Board of Directors.
Thanks to the board for addressing the concerns of the VHF community and
unanimously approving this first step in the process of stimulating interest in
VHF contests.

73, Wayne Overbeck, N6NB
...a licensed VHF contest-watcher for 58 years



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:04:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: russell beech <rbeech2002@yahoo.ca>
To: "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>,
        "ontvhfassoc_reflector@yahoogroups.com"
        <ontvhfassoc_reflector@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [VHFcontesting] VE3OIL/r January Sweepstakes
Message-ID:
        
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Please forgive me re-posting. ?Something happened during my last post and the 
schedule became garbled and unreadable by some e-mail tools.
I will be roving this weekend, active on all bands form 50 MHz to 24 GHz. ?This 
year I will run from west to east.

I expect to keep to the following:
Saturday
EN82qb ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1900 - 2020EN81rx ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2050 - 2240EN82ud ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ?2310 - 2430
Sunday
EN92fn ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0140 - 0400EN93xa/FN03aa ?1400 - 1500EN92xx/FN02ax ? 
1500 - 1600FN13ax ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2130 - 2300FN14ba ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2330 - 0130
Monday
FN04xa ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0200 - 0400
I will monitor 146.580 and am able to run FM from 50 to 3456 Mhz.

Skeds are accepted, please e-mail ve3oil@yahoo.ca and I will return a list of 
suggestions. ?
Calling and sked frequency will be 144.237 as often as possible.
73
RussellVE3OIL
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