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Re: [VHFcontesting] Rover Liason Frequency

To: specrisk@aol.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Rover Liason Frequency
From: "John D'Ausilio" <jdausilio@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:50 -0500
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A common rover frequency has it's pros and it's cons .. for example if
one frequency is in use by a number of rovers in the same general
area, then you need to have a protocol to move off the rover freq to
coordinate .. so now you need two freqs or coordinate on a different
band. If the fixed op checks your freq but you're off working the last
guy on 6/222/432 he often doesn't hang around and wait.

Back in the early 2000s when W3IY was active, he had all the ops in
the mid-atlantic trained to listen for him on .247. Since I've been
piloting the Jitney it's been hard to get more than a handful of guys
to pay attention to .247 (though those that do work us on 10 bands in
multiple grids).

Personally, I think self-spotting should be allowed for rovers ..
everyone knows where all the fixed stations are, but for the rovers
it's like playing hide and seek. You can assume that a rover is *not*
going to be on-schedule past the start time (and maybe not even then),
so schedules are only guidance. Propagation, equipment, and operating
skill will determine whether a contact is completed, whether there's
traffic on I-95 will be less of an issue :) and roving would be a lot
less frustrating (especially given the time/$$$/energy invested). Plus
it would make roving attractive to new guys .. nothing motivates a
newbie like a steady stream of QSOs ..

de w1rt/john

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:20 PM,  <specrisk@aol.com> wrote:
>
>  To the list- I do not know whether this concept has been discussed before 
> but I wonder if it would be a easy way for a fixed or portable operator could 
> occasional check this frequency (What ever frequency could or would be 
>  chosen) to see if rovers are within range. It could be on multiple bands but 
> I would think just one band would probably be adequate. Perhaps 144.270 or 
> 275 or higher by spacing of say 10 KHz used in the same fashion as the 
> Microwave liason frequency of 144.260 is used during the 10 GHz contest. In 
> that contest stations meet on 144.260 and QSY up or down usually in 10 KHz 
> intervals. It is hard enough to find rovers because of pointing problems. I 
> know there have been some sophisticated methods of locating them discussed 
> but sometimes simplicity works well. This method may be in use already  for 
> VHF contests but I am not aware of it. I suspect some of the rovers with MW 
> capability use 144. 260 in this fashion but there are  rovers with the 3 or 4 
> lower band
>  s that might not use 144.260. I wonder if there was consensus on  a "Rover" 
> specific frequency that it would net more activity. There could be a "low 
> end" frequency and perhaps an FM upper band alternative?
> George, W1JHR
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