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Re: [VHFcontesting] Use it or lose it debate.

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Use it or lose it debate.
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:44:28 -0600
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I kinda hate to say this, but Frank, you seem to care little about anything
else except this captive Rover deal. Every topic posted here does not
revolve around it. The captive Rover thing is only a tiny part of VHF+
operation that takes place and wasn't even related to the topic that you
responded to. If anything, the Rovers you refer to would even give us more
in our defense (or offense) regarding our frequencies, because they are
using them. The FCC and Congress could care less about who Rovers are or
what they do in contests. All they care about is whether there is activity
in that band or not.
I have only had about a dozen people at most around here to work on the
bands 2304 and up. I've made numerous "pilgrimages" to a nearby hilltop to
work some of the few down by St. Louis, and have succeeded with some but not
others. So we keep trying. This is all outside of contest periods - usually
weekend mornings or when the Hepburn tropo index looks promising.  So, just
like the NRA of years ago, "I do my part."
:-)

73, Zack W9SZ


On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:51 AM, frank bechdoldt <k3uhf@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks for the info,
>
>
>
> The vast majority of the upper band contacts are made in an effort to
> inflate scores in ARRL contests by grid circling rovers.  The House sub
> committee should subpoena the VHF contest logs from the ARRl and look at the
> behavior of the grid circlers and captive rovers to determine if ham radio
> is using these frequencies in a way that benefits all the citizens of the
> united states that own the spectrum.
>
>
>
>
>
> Its time to use it for a real purpose or give most of it back to people who
> will use it to benefit society in general.  And yes evil corporations
> benefit society by keeping the economy going, like them or not.  Ham radio
> operators have a long history of integrity, we should not allow the
> misrepresentation of the use of these uper frequencies to protect the scores
> of 10-20 operators in a contest to stand in the way of using these bands for
> the good of all americans.  We don't need more than a few mhz per band above
> 2.3 ghz.
>
>
>
> All hams and especially ARRL vhf users or not should be outraged by what is
> going on in the upper microwave bands in the name of ham radio.
>
>
>
>  The original message::
>
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>
>
>
> A Major Discussion Event: "Use It or Lose It" has been very active on the
> W6YX/Stanford VHF reflector since Wed. morning, 30Dec2009.
>
> "Use It Or Lose It"  pertains to Amateur Radio Frequencies, particularly
> those above 1200 MHz,  as well as comments made by consultant, Dr. Dale
> Hatfield , who has been testifying before the US House Subcommittee on
> Broadcast  Spectrum Allocation. The hearing concerns the inventory of
> current  spectrum
>  and what different methods should be considered to help those industries
>  that  are in need of additional spectrum.
>
> The posted discussions on this subject have been posted by a number of well
> known weak signal amateur radio operators, most of whom have many years of
> amateur and professional experience with microwave and up frequencies.
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