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Re: [VHFcontesting] Endorse Rover Rules Revisions EXCEPT the 30 Q Limit

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Endorse Rover Rules Revisions EXCEPT the 30 Q Limit
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: w2ev@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:10:50 -0800 (PST)
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It is with a healthy dose of admiration for your efforts that I comment on the 
points that you bring up, Greg.

Said simply...you follow the strategies that you do, because of how the rules 
are presently written.  With a change to the rules...your strategies will 
change too.

You're a creative and talented guy.  You'll find ways to be successful.

Ev, W2EV

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, gmills@frontiernet.net <gmills@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> From: gmills@frontiernet.net <gmills@frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Endorse Rover Rules Revisions EXCEPT the 30 Q 
> Limit
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 11:39 AM
> Hello all,
> 
> My rover runs usually entail hitting the shore grids around
> Lake  
> Ontario, and sometimes EN93/94 and/or FN25. We start either
> in the  
> EN's, or in FN04 north of the lake, running up to 12
> bands, depending  
> on if anybody from Rochester will have 24, 47, 81 GHz, etc.
> The route  
> is typically clockwise.
> 
> I live south of Rochester, in FN12EX, where we end the
> contest.  
> Sometimes we go a little west to finish in FN02 and/or
> FN03.
> 
> While driving around the lake, we are in FN03 and FN13
> north of the  
> lake, and then back in those grids south of the lake. The
> New York  
> State Thruway (route 90) weaves in and out of FN12 and FN13
> between  
> Syracuse and Rochester. I have seen on the GPS receiver
> where Route 81  
> (roughly 1000 islands to Syracuse) weaves between FN23 and
> FN13.
> 
> This makes it near impossible to adhere to the proposed
> "in a grid  
> once" rule. It may have been last June, during a 6m
> opening, that my  
> roving partner would start a Q in one grid, get halfway
> through in  
> another, and finish in the original. It was kind of funny
> "FN23... no  
> wait FN13... oops FN23".
> 
> Rover Q's: in September we ran in to a couple of rovers
> in FN04. We  
> did 30+ Q's with them in 15 minutes, as they zipped
> from FN04 down to  
> FN03. I'm sure we worked them a bunch more times too as
> we hit the  
> corners... not to mention the other rovers running route
> 90, the QEW,  
> or 81.
> 
> My points:
> Routes between grids may weave in and out of already
> activated grids.
> You never know when you will see other rovers, with dozens
> of easy Q's.
> 
> 
> I suppose I could have saved typing this (and deleting my
> other rant  
> filled emails) by saying: "I'm running unlimited,
> and will talk to  
> anybody any time."
> 
> No logs in digital format sorry... we don't take a
> laptop, so the  
> paper logs are sitting on something keeping the dust out of
> it.
> 
> 
> Greg - K2LDT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Under no circumstances is placing a limit on   
> > contestant-to-contestant QSO's in the best
> interest of a VHF   
> > contest.  Participants should be *encouraged* to make
> contacts, not   
> > required to limit them.
> >
> > Again...the solution is too easy...
> >
> > 1. Rovers calculate their final score by simple
> summing of their   
> > scores from each individual Grid-4 that they activate.
> (After   
> > all...they are simply a single-op or multi-op that
> moves)
> >
> > 2. Once operation begins from a new Grid-4, it may not
> resume in a   
> > previously activated Grid-4 for the remainder of the
> event.
> >
> > All that remains are the same issues that all other
> participants   
> > face...and the encouragement to adopt strategies that
> maximize   
> > operational effectiveness by contacting as many other
> participants   
> > as possible (a good thing for everyone).
> >
> > Ev, W2EV
> >
> >
> >
> >
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