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Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 42, Issue 38

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 42, Issue 38
From: Dave Agsten <w4txs@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Bottom line is that no group with any specific interest, be it VHF contesters, 
rag chewers or whatever, has the right to any specific frequencies at any given 
time. Actually, isn't one of the responses about driving someone off of a 
frequency against FCC rules?
   
  Dave W4TXS

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Banning The Use Of 144.200 MHz During Contests (crawfish)
2. Re: Adjacent frequencies (Jim Worsham)
3. Re: Qsl Forwarding Service ? (Hector Garcia XE2K)
4. Re: FM in VHF Contesting (Jim Worsham)
5. Re: FM in VHF Contesting (Tom Carney)
6. Re: FM in VHF Contesting (Mike Metroka)
7. K4TS on the air for Field Day 2006 (Steve Gilmore)
8. Fwd: K?HTF Beacons (J999w@aol.com)
9. Re: Qsl Forwarding Service ? (J999w@aol.com)
10. W3AO on VHF (Jim Erickson)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:56:53 -0500
From: "crawfish" 
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Banning The Use Of 144.200 MHz During
Contests
To: AA4ZZ@aol.com, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Message-ID: <016a01c69720$b41599e0$8f52fea9@default>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

More than that, I heard from a friend recently that some stateside guys were
ragchewing on 50.110 and were adamant about not moving. Seems like more
folks that have no regard for their fellow VHF'ers. Have been inactive
myself in recent years, but hope one day to get going again.
Joe W4AAB
----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Banning The Use Of 144.200 MHz During Contests


>
> In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:05:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Jimk8mr@aol.com writes:
>
> The only people I can imagine that are having a problem are those who do
> not
> use 144.200 as a *calling* frequency, but rather that a *full time rag
chew
> frequency*.
>
>
>
> Actually those rag chewing on 144.200 and 50.125 are a much bigger problem
> than contesters, perhaps the response needs to be that rag chewing on
144.200
> and 50.125 should be banned.
>
> 73 Paul AA4ZZ
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:20:03 -0400
From: "Jim Worsham" 
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Adjacent frequencies
To: "'Mike (KA5CVH) Urich'" , "'VHF Contesting'"

Message-ID: <003601c6972c$53163f80$6401a8c0@GUESTROOM>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

A very good question. When I was just starting out in this VHF contesting
game I had the same question and went to the source at the ARRL to get the
answer. I was told that the intent of the prohibition against operating on
146.52 was that you could not operate any closer than the nearest nationally
recognized simplex (146.49 and 146.55) channel. In those parts of the
country that have 20 or 15 kHz channel spacing then those would be the
recognized limits. For SSB the answer is not nearly as straight forward.
Since there has never been an SSB frequency not allowed for use during a
contest that would be new ground.

73
Jim, W4KXY

-----Original Message-----
From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike (KA5CVH)
Urich
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 7:48 AM
To: VHF Contesting
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Adjacent frequencies

When the rules say 146.52 or its adjacent frequencies .... just what does
adjacent mean? When discussing FM is that 5, 10, 15, 20 Hz? How about SSB
is it 3, 4.5, 6 Hz?

--
Mike Urich, KA5CVH
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hector Garcia XE2K 
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Qsl Forwarding Service ?
To: Tom Carney , w8aks@earthlink.net,
VHFcontesting@contesting.com
Message-ID: <20060624012236.35733.qmail@web82109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

The LOTW is a good option, I have confirmed more thant 30 states using this 
metod for my 6m WAS that is supported, fast, cheap,
If we support later they will add the other ARRL supported Awards.

Hector Garcia XE2K / XF1K 
Mexicali B.C DM22fp

http://www.dxxe.org 


----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Carney 
To: w8aks@earthlink.net; VHFcontesting@contesting.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:22:53 PM
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Qsl Forwarding Service ?


Not that I'm aware of.

You might consider just up loading your QSOs to ARRL's LOTW. Seems like 
it's only a matter of time until it supports VUCC awards.

73, Tom K6EU


Martin Bluhm wrote:
> Just got into the vhf contesting mode semi-seriously. I wasn't planning on
> obtaining qsl's for awards; but after the last contest I now have the
> requiste contacts for vucc. is there an stateside qsl bureau for handling
> vhf contacts? I know there was a couple of services primarily for dxcc.
> Living in a motorhome and traveling make direct qsling an unviable option.
> Any pointers would be appreciated.
> 
> 73
> Marty
> W8AKS/7
> 
> 
> 
> Martin Bluhm
> w8aks@earthlink.net
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:26:45 -0400
From: "Jim Worsham" 
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FM in VHF Contesting
To: "'Steve Meuse'" , "'Mike Tessmer'"

Cc: 'VHF Contesting e-Mail List' 
Message-ID: <003701c6972d$4290b4a0$6401a8c0@GUESTROOM>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

W4NH runs FM on 2, 222 and 432 bands. Being the 2 meter guy I call CQ on
146.55 whenever things get slow on SSB. I make a few Qs every contest but
not nearly as many as you would think. We make a fair number of contacts on
223.5 also. I don't recall ever making a contact on 446.

73
Jim, W4KXY 

-----Original Message-----
From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve Meuse
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:46 AM
To: Mike Tessmer
Cc: VHF Contesting e-Mail List
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FM in VHF Contesting

Mike Tessmer expunged (Mike.Tessmer@hillmangroup.com):
> 
> Something I've never quite understood is why are FM QSOs seemingly 
> looked down upon by so many in the VHF contesting community?
> 
> I understand the built-in inequity of large population centers vs.
boonies.
> I understand the differences of FM vs. weak signal modes for longer 
> distance QSOs. But FM is merely another mode, just like SSB and CW are.

I don't think as many people look down upon it as you might think...

Most, if not all, big gun contest stations have FM rigs for each band.
They're not really there for mults, but to add to the Q count. If FM was
looked down upon, they wouldn't bother :)

-Steve

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:43:00 -0700
From: Tom Carney 
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FM in VHF Contesting
To: wa4kxy@bellsouth.net, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Message-ID: <449C98A4.10301@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Jim Worsham wrote:
> W4NH runs FM on 2, 222 and 432 bands. Being the 2 meter guy I call CQ on
> 146.55 whenever things get slow on SSB. I make a few Qs every contest but
> not nearly as many as you would think. We make a fair number of contacts on
> 223.5 also. I don't recall ever making a contact on 446.
> 
> 73
> Jim, W4KXY 
> 

OK for what it's worth, I attempt to make contact on FM during ever 
contest. In addition to setting up a second radio to monitor 146.55 and 
147.54, I also call CQ ever once and a while.

At best I get two to three additional contacts via FM. Unlike W4KXY, 
I've netted a few on 446.00 FM. Seems that a few people monitor the 
calling frequency out here. Can't catch people monitoring 146.52 but do 
pick up a few on 446.00.

73, Tom K6EU

PS: will be monitoring 146.55 and 147.54 during FD.



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:53:55 -0500
From: "Mike Metroka" 
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FM in VHF Contesting
To: 
Message-ID: <529.fca280.31ce1143@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Zack wrote: If I knew there would be a goodly number of people to work, I'd
spend more time on FM.

Zack, I made 22 Q's in this last contest on FM. 2 on 6m, 2 on 2m, 15 on
222, and 3 on 432. I'll take those "extra" 22 Q's any day. Great way to
boost my overall score!
73
Mike WB8BZK/R



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:12:57 -0400
From: "Steve Gilmore" 
Subject: [VHFcontesting] K4TS on the air for Field Day 2006
To: 
Message-ID: <200606240212875.SM02132@gillyradio>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Well if the weather doesn't blow us away, a boom doesn't snap and the
transverters play well, the K4TS club should be on the air for Field Day
2006.

We should have 6 Meters thru 3456G on the air so we hope some of the VHG
crowd shows up.
Should be Grid FM18HJ or close.

Hope to some noise on the VHF bands 

Steve Gilmore - W4SHG for K4TS Rappahannock Valley Amateur Radio Club



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:35:04 EDT
From: J999w@aol.com
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Fwd: K?HTF Beacons
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com, badgercontesters@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <523.17a1731.31ce9988@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

In a message dated 6/23/06 8:56:13 PM Central Daylight Time, 
donnatom@netins.net writes:

<< Subj: K?HTF Beacons
Date: 6/23/06 8:56:13 PM Central Daylight Time
From: donnatom@netins.net (Tom Gruis, EdD, K?HTF)
To: J999w@aol.com, K0HTF@arrl.net
CC: donnatom@netins.net

Yes, 28.250, 144.290, 222. and 432.35 are all operating. The 50.07
is down pending some time to replace the driver transistor. It has tended to
go through them! Also the 0.175 is off pending a titch of repair!

28.25 is the high power beacon - about 2.5 Watts. 2 meters is about
1 watt. The others are 2 of a bit below.

Thanks for asking!

73,

Doc.

-----Original Message-----
From: J999w@aol.com [mailto:J999w@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 17:25
To: K0HTF@arrl.net
Subject: K0HTF beacons?

Have been listening for your 2m beacon but was told that it is down. Can you

confirm? running or not?

73,

John K9RZZ
Milwaukee EN62
>>


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:37:24 EDT
From: J999w@aol.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Qsl Forwarding Service ?
To: VHFcontesting@contesting.com
Message-ID: <520.179946b.31ce9a14@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

eQSL is pretty popular and very easy to use. Doesn't do much towards the ARRL 
awards, but still neat in its own way.

John K9RZZ


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:11:45 -0400
From: "Jim Erickson" 
Subject: [VHFcontesting] W3AO on VHF
To: 
Message-ID: <000001c69798$20467770$6501a8c0@rover1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

W3AO/3

The Columbia ARA/PVRC Field Day effort will be on 50 SSB/CW, 144 SSB/CW,
222 SSB/CW, 432 SSB/CW, and 1296 SSB/CW from FM19mg. 

We will be operating on 144.220 SSB or near by. Find us there and
coordinate the others. Also we will be checking out the FM simplex
frequencies on 6 and 2m.

Stations:

6m - TS2000 @ 100w 5 el beam
2m - TS2000 @ 100w 12 el beam
222 - DEMI Transverter @ 25w 10el beam
432 - TS2000 @ 50w 15el beam
1296 - TS2000 10w 55em looper

Please look for us. It will make FD a bunch of fun!

73,

Jim K3LFO and the W3AO Team



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