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Re: [TowerTalk] 80M Delta Loop

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 80M Delta Loop
From: Brian Beezley <k6sti@att.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 07:42:39 -0700
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There's a problem with using the FCC conductivity map to rank HF conductivities that I overlooked: skin depth is much smaller at HF. Soil with different conductivity may come into play at broadcast frequencies. This can invalidate a conductivity ranking applied to HF.

The following table extrapolates 1 MHz permittivity and conductivity for ARRL average ground to HF using the Messier soil model. Conductivity is in mS/m and SD is skin depth in feet.

 MHz  Perm Cond   SD
 1.0  13.0  5.0  25.1
 1.8   9.9  5.2  18.8
 3.7   7.2  5.6  13.1
 7.1   5.5  6.1   9.4
14.2   4.1  6.9   6.6
21.2   3.6  7.4   5.5
28.5   3.2  7.9   4.7

For most bands there's quite an opportunity for soil variation to change HF conductivity by making deeper soil invisible to RF.

I think it's best to ignore the FCC map for HF questions.

Examples of ground constant variation with depth:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/gcvar.htm

Ground constant extrapolator:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/extrap.zip

Skin depth calculator:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/sd.exe

Brian

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