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Re: [TowerTalk] Need some actual Inv V lengths using 14ga THHN

To: Edward McCann <edwmccann@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Need some actual Inv V lengths using 14ga THHN
From: David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 19:05:48 -0700
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There is indeed a "return path" for a single wire.  The wire capacitively couples back upon itself, and the dielectric affects that capacitance.  That may sound strange, but think of a capacitive hat loading at the top of a vertical or at the end of a dipole.  The wire itself is just a different geometry and therefore has less effect, but it's the same principle.

EZNEC+ is based upon NEC2 and simply allows more wire segments than some other versions.  I can't say whether or not NEC2 handles dielectrics, or whether W7EL added a calculation on his own, but if you define a dielectric in EZNEC+ it will result in a shorter wire for the same effect as a bare wire.  That at least fits the physics of the situation.

Dave  AB7E





On 9/20/2022 6:36 PM, Edward McCann wrote:
I’ve been looking for several decades for a technical analysis of the Vf of a single 
bare and insulated wire, hearing nothing but lore from just about everywhere, unbelievable 
proposals and formulas from some, exhortations from academics that such a search is 
pissin’ in the wind, since there is no return path, as there is in twin lead or in 
coax.

73
Ed McCann
AG6CX
Sausalito


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