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Re: [TowerTalk] Broadcast Band AM Transmiiter Intererence on 160M

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Broadcast Band AM Transmiiter Intererence on 160M
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 18:53:32 -0500
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On 2022-01-30 6:09 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

Unfortunately I didn't have enough cursors to put one in the AM
band, but an eyeball guestimate is that the better ones will get you
15-20 dB at 1420. That report includes measurement for a vintage ICE
BCB, which is in that range. As I understand it, Morgan took over
that line. >
> The trap that Jim Lux suggested would probably go a lot lower.

Jack at Clifton Labs had some designs that replaced the inductor(s)
in HPF designs with series tuned traps for specific 'problem"
frequencies.  Unfortunately Jack is an SK and DX Engineering which
took over some of his designs seems to have dumped most of Jack's
work and all of the information on his web site.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-01-30 6:09 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 1/30/2022 1:57 PM, Mike Ryan wrote:
By FAR my greatest offender is at 1420AM which is less than one
mile from my qth.

If you can kill it with a BPF or HPF, they're not the offender, the preamp is. And with the problem station fairly high in the band, you'll want a BPF or HPF with pretty steep skirts. Best bet is to study published curves for stuff from DX Engineering, WX0B, and the filter mfrs themselves. I remember looking a year or so ago and the state of the art seemed to be in the range of 40 dB fairly high in the band.

Also, the better BPF sets made for contesting have pretty good attenuation on the AM BC band. At the end of this report is a link to my measured data on those that I owned or had loaned to me for measurement.

The report: http://k9yc.com/BandpassFilterSurvey.pdf
The data:  http://audiosystemsgroup.com/BandpassFilterData.htm

 A few years ago, I acquired a pair of used Hamation FilterMax-IV sets that measured quite well, but I don't think I saved the data. TXBPF sets are in my SO2R station, and the Hamation units are on the rig side of switching for my RX antennas.

Unfortunately I didn't have enough cursors to put one in the AM band, but an eyeball guestimate is that the better ones will get you 15-20 dB at 1420. That report includes measurement for a vintage ICE BCB, which is in that range. As I understand it, Morgan took over that line.

The trap that Jim Lux suggested would probably go a lot lower.

73, Jim K9YC


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