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Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: YCCC 9 Circle Receive Array
From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:07:45 +0000 (UTC)
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 My feeling is that the feed-line to each radiator is part of the grounding. 
You have 9 radiators. If you have 1/4 wavelength between each element you would 
have about 3/4 wavelength between each element and the center. I assume you 
have placed the combiner in the center. An open end wire (any type) is not that 
bad of a grounding radial. The common mode choke is there to isolate the 
feed-line from the combiner and that way act like an open end.

Hans - N2JFS
 
 
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From: Roger Parsons via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
To: Tower and HF Antenna Construction Topics. <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 2:50 pm
Subject: [TowerTalk] YCCC 9 Circle Receive Array

I have recently completed building a YCCC 9 Circle array, and it seems to work 
quite nicely. This replaces a receive 4 square using top loaded elements - I 
could never get that to last as animals would break one or more of the top 
loading wires mistuning the array.

The instructions for the YCCC array are explicit that there must be common mode 
chokes between each element and the combiner unit. That is obviously a good 
idea, but I can't understand why they suggest putting them at the combiner unit 
end of the feed lines to each element, and my feeling is that they should be at 
the element ends. (The elements have a very poor ground, and the feed lines are 
significantly long. Surely that means that the high impedance of a common mode 
choke at the combiner will be transformed to a different and probably lower 
impedance at the element. The effect of that could be that the feed line 
becomes the main and unpredictable ground for the element, and different for 
each element, which I think is exactly what is not required.)

Comments would be appreciated.

73 Roger
VE3ZI
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