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Re: [TowerTalk] Modeling vs Experimenting Crowds

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Modeling vs Experimenting Crowds
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:17:55 -0700
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On 9/11/2019 9:45 PM, David Gilbert wrote:

I think most of that is fairly misguided advice when it comes to antennas.


I would agree and the rest well said.

The NEC programs continually amaze me how well they predict behavior and performance. There is very little magic left beyond Maxwell. Creative ideas? Great - give them a spin in the NEC washing machine. I must have 200 bad ones thankfully never built. Plus, EZNEC has some nifty generation routines. Want a tapered wound spiral vertical? - easy. A few hours of modeling and then we built one - resonance F and R very close, measured A/B gain in the predicted minus few db ballpark. Was that model perfect? - of course not, some significant variables were not possible to model, but the prediction was very close to reality. As W8JI pointed out, without controlled A/B performance testing, there are just too many variables to declare any sort of victory. That pretty much wipes out experimental optimization unless you have a real antenna range.

I find it depressing to see hams put up at great effort even simple wire antennas that just don't work very well. No need to debate which yagi is better. Now when asked to help build a DOG of an antenna, I pass. Especially if I was asked and counseled against it. The folklore that causes folks to build (and buy) them has amazing staying power.

Junk antennas are likely one reason folks get frustrated and quit the hobby. So, I think we have a self interest to encourage building (or buying) good ones.

Grant KZ1W
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