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Re: [TowerTalk] how to do coax on ring rotor?

To: "'Tim Duffy'" <k3lr@k3lr.com>, "'StellarCAT'" <rxdesign@ssvecnet.com>, "'tower'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] how to do coax on ring rotor?
From: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:23:23 -0400
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
I have coax and SteppIR control cables, taped together, that loop above the 
boom because all three of my rings sit about a foot above a guy bracket. The 
guys and brackets could interfere with a loop below the rings.

There are some photos of the tower on my website, www.wc1m.com, which shows why 
below the rings won't work for my setup, but the photos can no longer be 
enlarged and it's hard to see the loops (and not all that easy to see them in 
the hi-res versions.) The site is hosted by the ISP I ditched years ago and I 
haven't done any maintenance since. Need to move the whole thing to a new host. 
One of the huge number of very time-consuming low-priority projects on my list.

From memory (still lots of snow on the ground here), the coax is attached to 
the tower about 5 feet above the ring, drops straight down and loops back up to 
the top of the boom truss support, which is a 3-foot piece of galvanized pipe 
offset from the ring's boom cradle using a custom mounting plate made from roof 
truss plates. The key is that the boom and pipe are mounted away from the tower 
face, leaving enough room for a loop. From the top of the truss support, the 
coax goes straight down the pipe, to which it's taped, then snakes out along 
the boom to the feed point. Pretty sure I used Bury-Flex for the coax, which is 
quite flexible, but I might have used RG-213 because the runs from the stack 
match are only about 35 feet or so.

73, Dick WC1M

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com> 
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:26 PM
To: 'StellarCAT' <rxdesign@ssvecnet.com>; 'tower' <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] how to do coax on ring rotor?

HI Gary

Have the loop below the boom works very well here. You have to have a safe 
climber in place for the installation and it check out  360 degrees while 
someone in the shack (linked by radios) operates the control box. Take measures 
to insure the coax can never get caught by the guy attachment hardware. The key 
to this is coming off the boom about 3 feet away from the tower face.

73
Tim K3LR



-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
StellarCAT
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 1:56 PM
To: Tim Duffy; 'tower'
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] how to do coax on ring rotor?

Thanks Tim ... as I wrote David direct -  it was a "DUH!" moment when I read 
his note - which was to use the truss support upright. I have been focusing too 
much on the actual antenna and the coax along the boom .... thinking loops 
around the tower and drapes etc.... I hadn't even considered the truss support. 
That should be pretty straight forward.

I do have a guy right below, within 3', so I'm reluctant to let it hang down 
directly from the boom .... although it looks like that is what you do Tim.


Gary
K9RX


-----Original Message----- 
From: Tim Duffy
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 12:27 PM
To: 'StellarCAT' ; 'tower'
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] how to do coax on ring rotor?

Hello Gary:

You can go to my website and see lots of photos of coax with ring rotors. 
There are 23 ring rotors here - so if you have questions after looking at 
the photos and videos - please email me and I will help

http://www.k3lr.com  look at contest photos and videos

73
Tim K3LR

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
StellarCAT
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 12:00 PM
To: tower
Subject: [TowerTalk] how to do coax on ring rotor?

I’ve got two TIC ring rotors that are going up – hopefully this spring ... 
they’ll have 2 7 element 10’s on them ... (yeah, I know, 10M’s).... and I’m 
trying to figure out the best way to handle the coax coming off of the 
antennas. Both going up from the ring as well as going down. I need up 
because one of the rings will be mounted 4’ above a guy point so going down 
isn’t likely to be a solution.

Anyone done this already and gone through the trials and tribulations of 
getting it right?

You’re welcome to write direct to my ARRL email address or post here...

thanks – Gary, K9RX
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