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Re: [TowerTalk] Joining EHS Guy To Philly Guy

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Joining EHS Guy To Philly Guy
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 07:32:44 -0700
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One might presume that the thimbles supplied by guy grip makers will not deform loaded to the rated strength of the grip. They are definitely heavy duty. I've never seen a hardware/big box store with such thimbles, but no doubt they are used. Then the risk is the thimble bends to less than the minimum specified bend radius of the EHS and its strength is compromised. And/or the thimble "U" flattens and the EHS comes out.

The stress in the thimble in the contact area with another radius is known as Hertzian stress, a pretty complicated topic beyond my pay grade, but the bottom line is the larger the contacting radii, the lower the stress levels for both deformation and fatigue failures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_mechanics\

Understanding the gross deformation of a thimble under load probably requires finite element analysis or destructive testing.

Grant KZ1W



On 5/24/2018 4:01 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
Unless the cylinder has the same radius as the thimble it will still only
hit or connect in a very small area.  At what tension will the heavy duty
thimble crush? I doubt most hams will see this much guy wire stress.

John KK9A



Steve Maki K8LX

I'm not convinced that a preform/thimble combo MUST be mated to a
straight cylinder, even though the examples shown don't include anything
but. I've seen BIG preforms installed through a closed link for example,
that seem to satisfy any concerns. As long as the curved link is smooth
(to avoid abrasion), it might offer an advantage over a straight pin.

At any rate, in ham applications it's mostly all academic.

-Steve K8LX

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