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Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection

To: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection
From: Gedas <w8bya@mchsi.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:03:53 -0400
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Great choice Tony, you won't regret it. Just do not skimp on the quality of the connectors. The termination of the shields to the shell is critical as to how well the overall cable provides S.E. & immunity and isolation, etc. If you have a minute check out a video I made on youtube about cheap imported crimp on connectors. Just do a search on my call. I learned my lesson and only buy connectors from people I trust. 73 es GL

Gedas, W8BYA

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On 3/17/2018 8:32 AM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
Tnx everyone for all the input on coax for jumpers. Some great ideas and info. I bought 100’ 
of Harbour Industries RG400. I didn’t want to take a chance on imported cable. Also bought 
crimp PL-259’s. I should be set.

73,

N2TK, Tony

From: N2TK, Tony [mailto:tony.kaz@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:47 PM
To: 'Gedas' <w8bya@mchsi.com>; 'towertalk@contesting.com' 
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Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection

Tnx Gedas. Yeah, want to make sure it is the good stuff I get.

N2TK, Tony

From: Gedas [mailto:w8bya@mchsi.com]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:29 PM
To: N2TK, Tony <tony.kaz@verizon.net <mailto:tony.kaz@verizon.net> >; 
towertalk@contesting.com <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection

Hi Tony. Harbour Industries is a HUGE leader in the world of high-temp, quality 
Teflon cables and wires etc. They are the ones who make my RG-142. I personally 
would stay away from buying cables and assemblies from Asia unless you knew 
exactly who you were dealing with and had some assurance of the quality cables 
you would be getting from them. Several people here have suggested a couple 
real good USA sources and I would look into them if I were you. I just make my 
own here but that is because I have plenty of cable around.

Gedas, W8BYA
Gallery at http://w8bya.com
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

On 3/16/2018 2:20 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote:

Gedas,
Tnx for the info.
Looking on eBay I see several listings for RG400 from China. I had heard 
Harbour Industries in VT makes a high quality cable. Not sure about the stiff 
from China.,
N2TK, Tony
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From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gedas
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:13 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection
RG-303 is a good cable but not as good as RG-400 or RG-142 because it uses only a single shield. Also, I would still use RG-400 over RG-213 because it meets his desire for a small O.D. cable and because he is using it for switching filters etc where the higher shielding effectiveness of the RG-400 is desirable and will offer better immunity to cross talk etc. Plus, with a Teflon based coax you never have to worry about the center conductor migrating from center, even under QRO and extreme heat and tight bends. I was biased when I posted using RG-142 because I was lucky enough to find a 1000' roll of it and have been using it for jumpers for years & years. But RG-400 is more flexible and of the same high quality as 142. It used to be that RG-213 meant an upgraded quality version of a cable like RG-8 (solid dielectric & VF = 0.66) but with two copper braids vs.
one. RG-214 was the same as RG-213 but used a silver coated copper center conductor 
and dual silver coated copper braids for even higher performance and better S.E.  
For MIL applications we used lots of RG-223, RG-142, RG-400, RG-214, and of course 
tons of semi-rigid. I was very, very lucky when I was able to purchase five 
left-over 1000' rolls of new RG-214 for, you don't want to know, and have enjoyed 
giving most of it away to friends & family.
Gedas, W8BYA Gallery at http://w8bya.com
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 3/16/2018 1:33 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:

I see no mention of RG 303 and wonder if that's been discontinued.
for jumpers I'd use 213. If you need a tighter bend radius I'd
re-arrange or re-locate the connection points instead of using skinny
silver coax.
Rob
K5UJ
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