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Re: [TowerTalk] TriEx towers misc

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TriEx towers misc
From: Gene K5GS <k5gs@arrl.net>
Reply-to: k5gs@arrl.net
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:51:18 -0700
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I was surprised to see the comments from k2qbv embedded in a Tower Talk posting. He seems to have left out key details about the First Call - Will-Burt debacle. For many years First Call Communications advertised in QST, they had a good reputation.

Here's my experience with First Call Communications shortly before they went out of business:

1. First Call Communications took my deposit for Tri-Ex LM-470 tower.
2. Per the sales contract a second payment was due after the initial order. A final payment was due when the tower shipped. 3. Subsequently, my credit card was charged for the 2nd and final payments, but no tower was ever shipped, all I received was and endless stream of excuses. 4. When I finally lost my patience with First call I met k2qbv at his favorite restaurant in White Plains, NY LaManda, it was a good meal (he bought). 5. I was advised to file a complaint with MasterCard and the entire amount charged, over $6,000, would be refunded by MasterCard.
6. After an investigation MasterCard refunded the money.
7. The FBI became interested when mail fraud complaints hit their radar. I don't recall the exact number, but it was quite high. The FBI asked me to provide them with my files and timeline. A Case File was created and per FBI instructions it was turned over to my local sheriff for his filing and forwarding to the FBI. 8. Those that already planted an early ship Tri-Ex LM-470 base needed a new strategy. If my memory is correct there were 16 early ship bases in the ground. My strategy, with the help of a professional engineer and a local fabricator, was to design and build an adapter plate for a UST HDX-572. $1,600 later it worked perfectly and was up for 15 years before I took it down in May, 2016 to relocate. 9. Will-Burt said they would design an adapter plate to fit their LM-470 to the Tri-Ex manufactured base, didn't happen. 10. I knew that First Call was in litigation with Will-Burt. First Call said they would try to cover some of the cost for the adapter plate, that never happened. 11. First Call went out of business and all that remains is a very thick case file and bad memories of dealing with these 2 companies.

The above is from memory. I'd be happy to share some of my files with k2qbv if he needs a refresher.

It wasn't much longer after we installed the UST HDX-572 that I saw ads for the Tashjian Towers product line.

Both Tashjian and Will-Burt make good products, but it seems Will-Burt didn't understand the amateur market and had a really bad experience with this attempt to enter a new space.

Now you know the other side of the story, from a customer caught in the middle.

73,
Gene K5GS

From: Joel
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:51 AM
To: kanives@yahoo.com ; lovewell@gmail.com ; K0DAN@ARRL.NET ; W7WLL@ARRL.NET
Subject: TriEx towers misc



Came across a posting on Tower Talk this morning and wanted to respond to people that 
commented on "tower talk".  It appears that a brief description of crank up 
towers would be good to set the record straight.



I worked for US Tower for 16 years as a rep and only carried the UST line.  
Moved on to TriEx Towers  as the director of marketing for TriEx under the 
Paragon name.  Joined Paragon Manufacturing (also TriEx), First Call 
Communications (also TriEx) and also for The Wilburt Company who purchased 
TriEx as an exclusive.  I sued Wilburt directly that purchased TriEx then 
retired after Wilburt settled.    TriEx tower rights went to Karl Tashjian. I 
did not work for Tashjian.



So what do you fellows need to know about who did what and when??



Joel, K2QBV



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