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Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Rohn Bolts AND nuts - won't mate
From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:30:53 -0500
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Jim.


I guess we see the same development as we saw around 1950 - 60 when the 
Japanese products were coming to the market. Same lack of QA with disastrous 
result. Eventually the Chinese will learn and we will get good products all 
over the line from there too. In the mean time the US industries can catch up 
and regain the market they lost due to various circumstances. (No political 
discussions here, please!)


Best 73 de,


Hans - N2JFS



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From: Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net>
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Subject: [TowerTalk] Rohn Bolts AND nuts - won't mate

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:12:13 -0500From: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>To: 
towertalk@contesting.comSubject: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Rohn Bolts AND nuts - won't 
mateIs this just an other example of the Chinese lack of quality assurance? 


I have seen mane examples of that in the past.It appears to me that the 
"pimples" are made too deep.I find Rohn's answer despicable. They should just 
send you a new set of nuts, nuts that they checked against their own 
specifications.Hans – N2JFS 


 ##  Even Portland Bolt buys  Chinese imported nuts + bolts.  Some of it is  
good, and some is junk.  On a similar note, locally we are havingone of our 100 
year old bridges replaced.  Turning into a real gong show.  Main contractor 
just finished building a new bridge in VE3 land, which ended up getting shut 
down for several days, bad expansion joints...in the middle of winter.   No 
alternate path either, so the trans canadagets  cut off...... totally un 
acceptable.  Same contactor is building our new bridge downtown. His sub 
contractor decides to buy steel, and nuts and boltsfrom china.  This has turned 
into a real disaster, with huge cost overuns, and junk material. The latest 
is... you cant even weld to it !!    WTF. Dunno what alloythey are using, buts 
its not even close to what was originally speced.  Huge sections of it have had 
to be torn down and new replacement steel is no where in site.New bridge is not 
expected to be  functioning till late 2019, way behind schedule. 


 ##   Meanwhile, the head of the Canadian steel manufacturing, that represents 
all the various steel manufacturers in VE3 land  comes on TV...and sez....  
told ya so. cdn steel makers could have easily supplied the correct steel, on 
time,and on budget.But local city hall folks wanted to save 50 cents, and went 
to the lowest bidder.   So far, we have saved nothing, and will be in the hole 
when all is said and done.Then to top it all off, the main contractor appears 
to have no clue as to how to build a new bridge in the 1st place. 


 ##  I had the 12 x 60 inch long x 1.125 inch diam anchor bolts for my HDX-689 
custom made by portland bolt, they were manufactured in their portland plant,to 
my specs, with a 6 inch thread on each end of each rod...and are 103 ksi yield 
strength.   The various heavy duty nuts, washers, bolts etc, are also made in 
theirplant. Including the 18 x 1 inch x 3 inch long bolts for the legs, with 
correct length shank. 


 ##  when u see dimples done wrong, excess galvanizing, threads done wrong, 
dont fight with it, replace the entire mess.   And avoid chinese made brake 
rotors like theplague, they come warped right out of the box, or will warp 
shortly afterwards.   Their calipers are junk as well.   Im lucky I avoided 
that gong show, and bought reputableaftermarket brands.  Those pal nuts that 
came with my  rohn  TB-4  bearings  were nothing to right home about, and 
neither were the bolts that came with them.  The 3 x boltsthat are mounted 
transverse, and every 120 degs  were more junk.  Mine rusted and seized up 
asap, sri, not impressed.   Jim   VE7RF  
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