Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:00:49 -0800
From: "Steve Jones" <n6sj@earthlink.net>
To: "'Joe Subich, W4TV'" <lists@subich.com>,
<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SteppIR
Another thing to consider is that with a fixed multi-mono yagi design, all
the gain and F/B specs are at the design frequency. If the design freq is
14200 KHz, then the gain and F/B degrade at 14020 KHz and 14300 KHz. With
the SteppIR, you retune at each frequency to optimize gain and/or F/B.
Also, some of the big multi-mono yagis are considerably heavier with more
wind loading that the SteppIR because they have so many more elements on the
boom.
73,
Steve
N6SJ
## Not quite. The multi-mono-band yagis have slightly enhanced gain per
band
vs the mono band versions. You can see this on the f-12 multi monbanders as
well as the jk
multi mono banders...+ opti beam designs. The 10 + 12m els look like quasi
extra directors on 15m. On 10m,
the 15m els behind it look like quasi extra refs. On 20m, the 15m els look
like extra dirs.
## ur steppIR on 10 + 12m will have a long boom electrically......vs say 20m.
The feedpoint
Z on 20 vs 10m will vary by a huge amount. It will vary again depending on
how the parasitic
eles are tuned. Then u have the 22:50 ohm xfmr to deal with in the steppIR.
depending on
both spacing..and ele tuning, the Z could easily vary from 15-40 ohms.
## Do u tweak ur steppIR for max FB, max gain, or MIN swr ?? No way u can
optimize
all 3 of those parameters at the same time...on one feq. You have to
compromise some where,
there is no free lunch. Having said that, the steppir also has a lot going
for itself.... like no interaction
between bands. Flip side is only one band can be used at one time. Windload
with only 3 els is a huge plus.
mech complexity and reliability is another issue.
## A fellow e-mailed me 2 yrs ago.,.who has 3 of the steppirs in a stack.
2 of em are DOA... and the 3rd was
just barely hanging in there. Dunno if he had an early version or not. He
was not a happy camper.
## the F12 5BA only has just ONE ele on 12m ! yet it has 5.5 dbd on 12m.
20m is one feedline,
17+ 15m are a 2nd feedline...and 10+12m are the 3rd feedline. 20-15-10m could
all be used at the same time
if required, if filters used etc.... albeit the yagi is pointed in the same
direction on all 3 bands..which is no different
than a rotary tower.
## f12 makes this obscure yagi..called a N1715XL. 36 foot boom. 2 els
on 17m....and 7 els on 15m.
OWA design, with No hairpin , and just a single coax for both bands. The 17M
DE is directly driven. There is
a 15M parasitic DE, 13 inches away, and on both sides of the 17m DE. 8.2 dbd
on 15m...and a whopping
6.0 dbd on 17m. The 4 x 15m dirs act like quasi directors on
17m...enhancing the 17m gain. A normal 2 el 17m
yagi only has 4.0 dbd. A similar yagi is available for 12 + 10m, same
concept.
## Its all a series of tradeoffs. $, weight, windload, mech complexity, etc.
Stacking monobanders or dual banders is no simple feat.
The interaction can play hell..and fast if not done correctly.
## Flip side is my F12 6el-15m monobander, on its light weight 36 ft boom
has 8.5 dbd gain, 28 db FR,,,,and is an owa design.
Dead flat swr across the entire 450 khz, no hairpin. Gain is within .2db of
the max achievable with a 36 ft boom.
The gain of the 6 el 15m yagi only varies by .1db across the entire band. FR
only varies by 1 db across the entire band. It doesn’t
get any better than that. But it only works on one band.
Jim VE7RF
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