To: | "Larry Loen" <lwloen@gmail.com> |
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Subject: | Re: [TowerTalk] Bundling of tower coax and control lines |
From: | "Patrick Greenlee" <patrick_g@windstream.net> |
Date: | Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:40:16 -0600 |
List-post: | <towertalk@contesting.com">mailto:towertalk@contesting.com> |
Larry, the canvas is a good idea and it can be painted as well to extend its
life. Good UV resistant house paint will do the job. I have seen old used
canvas hose used to protect cables. I remember the problems I had a few
decades back with my mom's south facing wooden entry door at Bull Head City
Arizona. I never found a coating (paint) that lasted more than a couple
years at best. The intense sunlight with strong UV components and elevated
temps can be difficult to deal with. I'm currently looking for a thin
flexible tubing (round or flat on a roll) that is UV resistant and flexible
when cold. Simple criteria but difficult to satisfy on a moderate budget.
73 and best of luck to you. Patrick AF5CK-----Original Message----- From: Larry Loen Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:05 AM To: Patrick Greenlee Cc: TowerTalk Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Bundling of tower coax and control lines I live in the low Sonoran dessert (1400 feet above sea level) and UV is something we worry about around here. My stuff is too new at about a year in place, but I am wondering a bit about some of my setup. I have an MOV box that is discolored (no other problems; no cracks, etc.) and I have some exposed PVC conduit that is so far unchanged, except for one slightly darker elbow. The Home Depot actually suggested that ordinary paint could prove to work well for cables. I haven't tried that one yet. Maybe it buys an extra year or two before the paint cracks? I am also wrapping some of my ground level cable in canvas. I figure that it is thick enough to block it. If the canvas dies, it would be cheap enough to replace. I haven't though about what to do about the cables hanging from the tower. I was kind of resigned to replacing them eventually. My tower is a crankup and it seems to me that the whole question of covering them with anything is problematical. If you come up with an answer, I'd love to hear it. Larry WO7R On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>wrote: Roger, Your UV is not nearly the intensity of the 5000 ft high desert QTH. What works for you will not work with the intense UV of the high desert. Ray, I think the dripline is something to consider. I think it should be much more survivable than typical water hoses which the UV eats quickly. Ihave had HD clear plastic tubing turn to sticky goo in under a year. I haveused some 1/2 and 3/4 inch black plastic tubing in drip systems and it lasted with no apparent damage for several years. The black plastic wire covering "tubing" (wire loom) with a slit on one side lasts for several years. I always found it necessary to put some tape around it every sooften or to use a few distributed tie wraps to keep the enclosed wires frompopping out when the bundle was flexed. Maybe you could ferret out the mfgand buy it in longer lengths that the shorter ones at the auto parts store.Patrick AF5CK -----Original Message----- From: Roger (K8RI) on TT Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:27 AM To: towertalk@contesting.com Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Bundling of tower coax and control lines On 11/16/2013 2:51 AM, Ray Benny wrote:The subject of bundling tower coax with a spiral/twist type material was recently mentioned. I cannot seem to find it. I would like to bundle my coax and other cables, hanging from coax arms, toprotect them from UV rays. My QTH is high desert, almost 5000 ft elevationand control lines on other towers are starting to be affected. I used non UV resistant cables that I had on hand at the time,My Opinion: Because of the cost and work involved, I'd choose to just replace the cables. There are very few coax cables and rotator cables that are very sensitive to UV. The only brand name coax sensitive to UV "that I know of" are the UltraFlex versions of the LMR series. I do have "old" rotator cables that the outer jacket is failing after nearly 30 years. If the cables have been up long enough to already show substantial deterioration, it's time to replace them anyway. 73 Roger (K8RI) Does anyone have leads to locate some of this UV resistant material? I'veseen this type of material for indoor cables, in 6 - 8 ft lengths. I'mhoping someone makes long lengths, 50 ft or so and of different diameters.Just a thought, has anyone successfully used large diameter black water drip line for this? Seems to cover 2 RG8 size coax cables, a #12/2 copper line and a 3/8" control line would require at least a 1" diameter line. Tnx, Ray, N6VR Chino Valley, AZ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk_______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk _______________________________________ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk |
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