Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio

[jp@ezoom.net]

Same principle as any repeater club anywhere charging an annual fee  
for use of the machine.  Or what they used to do was charge for the  
auto-patch codes...remember that? The contents of the communications  
aren't commercial in nature, therefore 97.113 doesn't apply.
Quoting Hector Garcia XE2K <j_hector_garcia@sbcglobal.net>:

> Simple to understand , Renting HARDWARE not in USE
>
>  
> J.Hector Garcia  XE2K / AD6D
> Mexicali B.C  DM22fp / El Centro
> P.O.Box 73
> El Centro CA 92244-0073
> http://xe2k.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
> To: Gene Smar <ersmar@verizon.net>; Mike <noddy1211@comcast.net>;  
> 'K8RI' <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>; "towertalk@contesting.com"  
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
>
>
> They're not selling communications, they're selling access to  
> stations.  What you communicate is under your control and is subject  
> to 97.113.  Selling or renting equipment or access to the same is  
> not communications.
> As a reduction ad absurdum, if renting a station is illegal under  
> 97.113 so must be selling one. 
> Al
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf  
> Of Gene Smar
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:19 PM
> To: Mike; 'K8RI'; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
>
> TT:
>
>      When a local posting on this showed up here a few months ago, I  
> protested that this service can't be legal.  See below, especially
> 97.113(a)(2) and (3):
>
> "Sec. 97.113 Prohibited transmissions
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "(a) No amateur station shall transmit:
> "(1) Communications specifically prohibited elsewhere in this part;
>
> "(2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or  
> indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these  
> rules;
> "(3) Communications in which the station licensee or control  
> operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on  
> behalf of an employer, with the following exceptions: ...."
>      The exceptions are concerned with for-sale adverts on the air  
> if this isn't the operator's line of work and a few others.
>      IMHO, the station licensee leasing time on his super station  
> for this purpose is in violation of this Section of the Rules.  But  
> that's just me.
> 73 de
>
> Gene Smar  AD3F
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <noddy1211@comcast.net>
> To: "'K8RI'" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
>
>
> > Nope this is the USA monetary gain Trumps ethics:-)
> >
> > Seriously I think that rule applies to advertising.
> >
> > Mike/K6BR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > K8RI
> > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:22 PM
> > To: towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
> >
> > On 8/2/2013 3:39 PM, Jim W7RY wrote:
> > > At very impressive (high) prices!
> > > 73
> > > Jim W7RY
> > Isn't it against the rules to make money or receive reimbursement for the
> > use of an Amateur Radio station?
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Roger (K8RI)
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message----- From: K7LXC@aol.com Sent: Friday, August
> > > 02,
> > > 2013 9:39 AM To: towertalk@contesting.com Subject: [TowerTalk] Remote
> > > Ham Radio Greetings, TowerTalkians --
> > >
> > >      I'm not sure how I missed it but here is a new  service for hams.
> > > It's a time-share of ham radio stations of some clout. Check  it out
> > > at http://www.remotehamradio.com/.
> > >      Some impressive stations are available for your  use.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Steve    K7LXC
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