I need to trouble shoot my rotor control system. I have a G-800SA. Does
someone know the output voltages of the four wires coming from the
controller and can someone tell me how to test the rotor from the ground so
I don't have to remove the rotor to do it.
I am assuming that I have a controller problem, and that the rotor is fine.
Therefore, I most likely will buy a new controller, and redo the control
wires. Are there aftermarket controllers to consider, or is my only choice
to go with a replacement Yaesu controller?
All comments appreciated.
Terry
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:41:23 -0600
> From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
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> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
> with these numbers?
>
> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>
> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
> tower says?
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:34 PM
> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>
> If you really want facts, the rohn catalog calls for a 2'6"x2'6'x4' base for
> 180' of 55g. but a 64' bx series rohn tower calls for a 5'9"x5'9"x4' base.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Ryan [mailto:mryan001@tampabay.rr.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 20:13
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>
>> This thread just keeps getting better and better...very entertaining...not
>> very factual....but entertaining...pass the popcorn. - Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:41 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>
>>> Now maybe someone will address the massive concrete bases recommended in
>>> the
>>> catalogs? I maintain that if the tower is held vertical by the guys
>> there
>>> is near zero horizontal reaction at the base and all we need is enough
>>> base
>>> AREA to keep the thing from sinking, plus enough horizontal restraint to
>>> handle the windload on the tower between the ground and the first guys,
>>> which isn't much. There is no overturning moment at all.
>>
>> Guyed towers have relatively small bases, my 180' rohn 55 base is only
>> 4'x4'x5'. Self supporting towers have much bigger base requirements.
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:49:31 -0600
> From: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
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> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
> feet.
>
> Doug
>
> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
> Mayfield
> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>
> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
> with these numbers?
>
> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>
> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
> tower says?
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:29:08 -0500
> From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
> To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics."
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
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>
>
> Doug Renwick wrote:
>> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
>> feet.
>>
> In the lower 48?
>
> Here in Michigan I think they require 3', but I don't think I've seen
> the frost line make it more than 12 to 14 inches in the last two
> decades. That with the exception of under driveways.
> Even after all the really cold weather, with about a half foot of snow
> left, I doubt more than the top couple of inches is frozen.
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>> Doug
>>
>> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
>> Mayfield
>> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>> with these numbers?
>>
>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>
>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>> tower says?
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:13:45 +0200
> From: "Codrut" <codrut.buda@rdslink.ro>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Software for rotators control
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000001ca96be$80421ed0$80c65c70$@buda@rdslink.ro>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I hope somebody will find usefull the PstRotator program. It can be
> downloaded from
> <http://www.qsl.net/yo3dmu/index_Page346.htm>
> www.qsl.net/yo3dmu/index_Page346.htm
>
> PstRotator handles just about every controllable rotator in common use:
> Prosistel "D" and "C", RT-20 and RT-21 Green Heron, DCU-1 HyGain, RC1 MDS,
> Rotor-EZ Idiom Press, Easy-Rotor-Control, Yaesu Az and Yaesu Az/El GS-232A
> and GS-232B, M2 RC2800, AlfaSpid RAK Az and RAS Az/El, Easycomm, ST3 Fox
> Delta, Endeavour Electronics AutoTracker, ZL1BPU, EGIS, Create RAC825, EA4TX
> Arswin, DL7AOT, LBV Tracker, PrimeSat and VK5DJ.
>
> PstRotator provides automatic tracking for satelites and EME, using for this
> WXtrack, WinOrbit, Orbitron, Nova for Windows, Sat_Explorer, SatPC32, WSJT,
> Z-Track, GJTracker, EME System, Trak_SM, or HRD Satellite Tracker. Also it
> works with some contest loggers like N1MM, TACLog and Win-Test. Other
> programs supported are MixW, DXView, VQLog and Ham Radio Deluxe v5 (HRD
> Logbook).
>
>
>
> Tracking the moon is easier now using an internal algorithm.
>
>
>
> PstRotator supports multiuser remote control over TCP/IP.
>
>
>
> Antenna can be pointed on any direction with:
>
> - mouse click on a map,
>
> - mouse click on the compass rose,
>
> - left/right/up/down keyboard arrows,
>
> - setting the azimuth / elevation,
>
> - setting the QRA locator (4, 6 or 8 digits),
>
> - selecting the DXCC,
>
> - typing a callsign,
>
>
> 73, Codrut - YO3DMU
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:56:25 -0600
> From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
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> Doug,
>
> Thanks for the help. I was hoping to hear from someone up North :-) .
> I will follow the specs exactly for my 5'9" X 5'9" by 4' hole. I was
> worried about frost jacking / ground heaving.
>
> On a related note I was surprised to see in the Rohn notes that wire
> mess was acceptable for re-enforcing, do you know of anyone who has done
> that as opposed to rebar? It sure would be easier to work with.
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:50 PM
> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>
> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
> feet.
>
> Doug
>
> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
> Mayfield
> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>
> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
> with these numbers?
>
> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>
> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
> tower says?
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 07:33:15 -0500
> From: "Julio Peralta" <jperalta4@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a tower....Heresy to follow..... True
> statement!
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <654ECCB3DECA4A2582512585A1C89071@juliof20ace861>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> My apologies to the list my last reply was sent to the list by mistake.
>
> Julio
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:59:31 +0000
> From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <BD4AC83F93714CC99FD8490ED44A89F0@k1tttibm>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> For that you must read note 2 on drawing bb41300r6 "foundation material
> specifications, installation notes and tolerances" that says "The purchaser
> must verify that actual site soil parameters meet or exceed eia 'normal'
> soil parameters and that the depth of standard foundations are adequate
> based on the frost penetration and/or zone of seasonal moisture variation at
> the site..."
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield [mailto:gary_mayfield@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 03:41
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>> with these numbers?
>>
>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>
>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>> tower says?
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:34 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>
>> If you really want facts, the rohn catalog calls for a 2'6"x2'6'x4' base
>> for
>> 180' of 55g. but a 64' bx series rohn tower calls for a 5'9"x5'9"x4'
>> base.
>>
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Michael Ryan [mailto:mryan001@tampabay.rr.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 20:13
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>>
>>> This thread just keeps getting better and better...very
>> entertaining...not
>>> very factual....but entertaining...pass the popcorn. - Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:41 PM
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>>
>>>> Now maybe someone will address the massive concrete bases recommended
>> in
>>>> the
>>>> catalogs? I maintain that if the tower is held vertical by the guys
>>> there
>>>> is near zero horizontal reaction at the base and all we need is enough
>>>> base
>>>> AREA to keep the thing from sinking, plus enough horizontal restraint
>> to
>>>> handle the windload on the tower between the ground and the first
>> guys,
>>>> which isn't much. There is no overturning moment at all.
>>>
>>> Guyed towers have relatively small bases, my 180' rohn 55 base is only
>>> 4'x4'x5'. Self supporting towers have much bigger base requirements.
>>>
>>> David Robbins K1TTT
>>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:02:15 +0000
> From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
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> Wire mesh must be in a more recent catalog than mine. I would prefer rebar
> except maybe for a big pad base. For the 'normal' 25g/45g/55g bases up to
> 200' or so I think that mesh would be harder to work with... probably
> something to leave for the professionals.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield [mailto:gary_mayfield@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 12:56
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>> Thanks for the help. I was hoping to hear from someone up North :-) .
>> I will follow the specs exactly for my 5'9" X 5'9" by 4' hole. I was
>> worried about frost jacking / ground heaving.
>>
>> On a related note I was surprised to see in the Rohn notes that wire
>> mess was acceptable for re-enforcing, do you know of anyone who has done
>> that as opposed to rebar? It sure would be easier to work with.
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:50 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
>> feet.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
>> Mayfield
>> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>> with these numbers?
>>
>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>
>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>> tower says?
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
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