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Re: [TowerTalk] 12-14-2008 update on Palmdale ham radio ban

To: "Dave Tipton" <dave@dmtgweb.com>, "'Jim Brown'" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 12-14-2008 update on Palmdale ham radio ban
From: "W5IOK" <w5iok@windstream.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:09:13 -0600
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Does the Ham-Law or ham-legal or whatever reflector exist anymore?
73
Ed, W5IOK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Tipton" <dave@dmtgweb.com>
To: "'Jim Brown'" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 12-14-2008 update on Palmdale ham radio ban


> Such arrogance, and such wrong information...
>
> The Commerce Department controls the NTIA (National Telecommunications and
> Information Administration)...  NOT the FCC.
>
> They have signed numerous agreements in the past to COOPERATE with one
> another.  Neither controls the other.
>
> You guys really ought take your arguments off line, if you can't properly
> research them.  I for one am sick of hearing about this.  We all know that
> Palmdale is wrong, and it won't take much of a lawyer to beat them in
court
> based on state and federal precedence.  As suggested earlier, you should
> take this to the ham-legal or whatever reflector, because the arguments
> you've laid out here, are ridiculous and hold zero merit and is nothing
but
> a bunch of pan clanging to annoy people into feeling sorry for someone,
who
> in my opinion, doesn't need to be fealt sorry for yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:49 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 12-14-2008 update on Palmdale ham radio ban
>
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:29:57 -0500, Pete Smith wrote:
>
> >Commerce does not control FCC, or even have any influence
> >on amateur regulation.
>
> Hello Alice, how is it in Wonderland?
>
> A casual reading of Part 15 makes it clear that commerce does,
> indeed, control the FCC, and has for several decades. That's
> how we got things like mass market ownership of broadcasting,
> control of print and broadcast media in the same market, BPL,
> and so on. That's why broadcasters no longer need to employ
> full time engineers to assure the proper operation of their
> transmitters. That's why the FCC has no budget for
> enforcement.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim K9YC
>
>
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