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Re: [TowerTalk] Come-along recommendation needed

To: <sabrams@nycap.rr.com>, "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>,"Jim Miller" <JimMiller@STL-OnLine.Net>,"TOWERTALK Reflector" <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Come-along recommendation needed
From: <sabrams@nycap.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:36:27 -0400
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
P.S. That's the difference between a come-along and a real hoist for 
lifting.  And the difference between a 1 and two ton come-along is that the 
latter has the hook on a pulley going back to the wratchet so there is a 2 
to 1 ratio on the pull.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sabrams@nycap.rr.com>
To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; "Jim Miller" 
<JimMiller@STL-OnLine.Net>; "TOWERTALK Reflector" <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Come-along recommendation needed


> If you read the materials that come with the come-along you will see that
> the rating is for pulling dead weight; i.e. dragging 2 or 4 thousand 
> pounds.
> The force on the come-along is the coefficient of drag/friction needed to
> move the object.  It is NOT rated for lifting those weights where the full
> force of the 2 tons is on the cable.  73  Saul  K2XA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
> To: "Jim Miller" <JimMiller@STL-OnLine.Net>; "TOWERTALK Reflector"
> <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Come-along recommendation needed
>
>
>> The "problem" is believing the ratings. Many of the 4000# rated dont look
>> one bit different than the 2000# ones.
>> I had 2000# imports fail when simply used as hold downs on the axles of 
>> my
>> race car; the load could barely have been 500#.
>> When lifting a 250# mast thru a tower the load is a heck of a lot more
>> than
>> 250# due to the angle you're forced to use plus friction thru the thrust
>> bearing(s).
>>
>> The last thing I would do is buy a used one or a new import at a flea
>> market.
>>
>> A true 4000# unit has thicker cable which makes it somewhat unwieldy and
>> at
>> 100' plus its no time to find out problems.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jim Miller" <JimMiller@STL-OnLine.Net>
>> To: "TOWERTALK Reflector" <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Come-along recommendation needed
>>
>>
>>> I'm not sure I understand the problem.  Your run-of-the-mill "Typical"
>>> come-alongs are rated at 4000 pounds and start at about $20 depending on
>>> what color you want.  I have seen "new" ones that use something other
>>> than
>>> the steel cable they all used to use so I do not know about them.  I'm
>>> talking about the two hanging in my garage and the two I sold a few 
>>> years
>>> ago.  Don't know if the rating if "guaranteed", but you wouldn't be 
>>> using
>>> it
>>> at anything even close to that.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim
>>>
>>>> On 8/9/07, Bill Cotter <n4lg@qx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I would like to purchase a come-along for the lifting a 22ft cr/mo
>>>> > mast (loaded with antennas: 250lbs+) inside the top sections of
>>>> > Rohn-45. After attempting to search the reflector archives without
>>>> > any luck, I figure this topic had been discussed sometime in the
>>>> > past. I would appreciate suggestions for a high quality come along
>>>> > for this task.
>>>> >
>>>> > Suggestions?
>>>> >
>>>> > 73 bill n4lg
>>>
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