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Re: [TowerTalk] Mast slipping

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mast slipping
From: <donovanf@starpower.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:03:56 -0400 (EDT)
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Hi Steve,

I did not personally see the failed 2800 rotators, but my recollection is that 
the case failed.

73!
Frank
W3LPL

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:35:34 EDT
>From: K7LXC@aol.com  
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mast slipping  
>To: towertalk@contesting.com, donovanf@starpower.net
>
>   In a message dated 4/22/2007 9:15:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight
>   Time, towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>
>     >  I don't think the problem is a design flaw with the 2800,
>     I believe it not rated for very large 3 element 40 meter
>     full sized Yagis (including
>     the SteppIR MonstIR) in strong winds.
>
>     >  Orion 2800 rotators failed catastrophically in three
>     different installations in my local area when used with very
>     large antennas
>     (full size 3 element 40M Yagis and SteppIR MonstIRs).  In
>     each case it
>     was a result of 40-50 MPH winds typical for this area.  Each
>     failure
>     occured soon after installation of the rotator.
>
>         Were the failures in the transmission or what? While I'm
>     sure it happens, I haven't personally been involved with an
>     Orion failure. And yes, they're not a prop pitch but better
>     than most other rotators available.
>
>     >  "Square feet" is an inadequate rating for rotator
>     capacity.  Very large
>     antennas distribute wind loads over a large structure, and
>     considerable
>     energy is stored in the flexing of very long elements in the
>     wind. This
>     stored energy creates heavy torque loads that overload all
>     but the strongest rotators.
>      
>         Quite true which is why Hy-Gain and Yaesu both went to
>     Effective Moment and K-Factor which are both the antenna
>     weight times turning radius - a much more realistic
>     measurement.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Steve     K7LXC
>     TOWER TECH
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