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Re: [TowerTalk] Guying free-standing towers: the initial post

To: <jimjarvis@ieee.org>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guying free-standing towers: the initial post
From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Tom Rauch <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:20:28 -0400
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> There was ONE direct answer...keep it loose and you'll
> be fine.  Then the thread took on a life of its own.

Yep.

> Let's be clear, however:  Tensioned guys add load to a
tower.
> Therefore, the tower will reach its material failure point
> sooner.  Might be 5%, might be 50%, depending on how much
> you stress it, and where.

Jim, I seriously doubt that statement is true.

The reason is pretty basic. Without a guy line and with
wind, one or more legs of the tower go into compression
while one or more legs are under tension. Failures are
generally compression failures, where a leg or leg buckles,
and a self support has to be planned so ONE leg handles all
of the load.

Not so with a guyed tower.

When we guy a tower, we spread the load out over a much
larger base and the vertical tower legs are under
compression, and that compression is MUCH more evenly
divided between all the legs instead of perhaps falling only
on one leg. Not only that, the reduced angle between the
horizontal (sideways) force and the countering tension of
the guy means there is significantly less downward force
transfered to the tower legs, and all the stretch is
transferred to the guyline(s). I can't see anything
happening except tower stress being reduced under high wind
loads.

> The function of the guys, is NOT to add strength to the
> system.  The function is to force a different failure
mode,
> and the price of doing that will be reduced load rating,
or
> earlier failure, if loaded to original specification.

The primary function of the guylines is to absorb horizontal
forces, and when the guy tension increases it converts some
of that force to downforce or compression. While I agree
everyone should check with the manufacturer, I seriously
doubt adding guys with a wide footprint is going to make a
system fail at LESS windload than it would without them. The
only exception would be if the installer did something
really stupid like using a huge guyline or guy tension a
significant portion of the compression limit of the tower
legs.

I'm sure we could MAKE the tower handle less windload by
adding guylines that were grossly oversized, but I'd bet
money that proper guying would greatly increase the windload
of any self-supporting tower that has a narrow base width
compared to its height.

73 Tom

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