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Re: [TowerTalk] Re: Thrust bearing

To: <kb9cry@comcast.net>, "Noel" <yaesurig@msn.com>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Re: Thrust bearing
From: "Jerry Keller" <k3bz@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:18:48 -0400
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Sorry, in my previous post I should have mentioned:

My top "thrust bearing" is actually what N4NM calls a "pointy-top"... a tube 
attached to the top tower section thru which the mast passes... which acts as a 
guide. Inside the tube, the mast is protected to some degree against chafing by 
a thin polyethylene sheet wrapped around the mast as a bearing, plus plenty of 
grease. I used rubber plumbing adaptors ("Furnco's") as grease retainers top & 
bottom... one end hose-clamped to the mast and the other end a loose fit on the 
guide tube.  But the important point is that nearly all the weight is supported 
by those double-saddled muffler clamps sitting on the REAL thrust bearing 
that's between the guide tube and the rotator. I don't even use the setscrews, 
so scoring, etc, is not an issue.  I would think that using two actual TB's 
would work as well.

Rotator removal is not a problem because my tower tilts over, but if it didn't 
the TB taking the weight would allow me to R&R the rotator without disturbing 
the mast or antennas.

73,  Jerry K3BZ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kb9cry@comcast.net 
  To: Noel ; towertalk@contesting.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:46 PM
  Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Re: Thrust bearing


  I have TB-3 on my towers and what I do is set the mast down into and resting 
on the rotator.  I center the mast in the thrust bearing and tighten the collar 
screws, really just to keep it centered.  I then install a small SS pipe clamp 
onto the mast and move it down the mast so it is up against the top of the 
bearing.  I then install the antenna.  My assumption is that some of the 
additional load from the antenna is being borne by the TB.  Seems to work for 
me.  If I need to remove the rotator, I've installed another pipe clamp up the 
mast above the top bearing plate and used a small scissors jack to jack the 
mast assembly up and out of the rotator.  On the new tower I might attach a 
come-along to a clamp attached on the mast just above the rotator and jack it 
up that way.  Phil  KB9CRY

  -------------- Original message -------------- 

  > Agreed with everthing except the statement. "...Then make sure the 
  > collar can rotate around the mast without binding".. Seems to defeat the 
  > point of having a thrust bearing? Why not have just a collar then? I 
  > think the bolts in the thrust bearing should be tightly holding the mast 
  > or at least very snug. Not bearing weight but enough to support any 
  > lateral movement. Your method would cause the bolts to eventually scar 
  > the mast even though you say the clearance is minimal, unless one used 
  > shims. 
  > 
  > I'm curious haw many people who utilize thrust bearings, allow the 
  > bearing to "rotate around the mast" or make sure the mast and bearing 
  > are tight and rotate together? 
  > 
  > 
  > Noel 
  > 
  > 
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