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Re: [TowerTalk] The tower base is poured BUT...

To: "W1GOR" <W1GOR@maine.rr.com>, "Jerry Keller" <k3bz@arrl.net>,"Towertalk@Contesting.Com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] The tower base is poured BUT...
From: "AA6DX" <aa6dx@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:50:31 -0700
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
AWWWWW.. come on guys .. a misplaced period is not an issue here .. might be
in the social scene, however//
Not worth the bandwidth.   Mark   AA6DX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "W1GOR" <W1GOR@maine.rr.com>
To: "Jerry Keller" <k3bz@arrl.net>; "Towertalk@Contesting.Com"
<towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] The tower base is poured BUT...


> Jerry,
>
> During the early 1990's, a 300 foot Rohn SSV tower was installed for the
> Long Island Rail Road.  The foundations were 3 footings, 3 feet in
diameter,
> and 20 feet deep in 3000 PSF soil.  The auger was trucked to the site from
> somewhere near Washington, DC.   Why does Dave Giuliani's engineer require
a
> 25 foot deep hole..?  You're right... Something seems incorrect..!
>
> 73, Larry - W1GOR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Keller
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 13:21
> To: David Giuliani; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] The tower base is poured BUT...
>
>
> OK, maybe my ignorance is showing, but does anyone else think it a bit
> preposterous for an engineer to recommend digging a 25 foot deep hole for
a
> tower base? If the soil content would allow augering a 25 foot deep hole
> only 2 feet in diameter, wouldn't it cave in long before it got that deep?
> Are there even 2 foot diameter truck-mounted augers available 25 feet
long?
> There's something about this idea that just seems wrong... but then I'm no
> engineer. Any thoughts?  Jerry K3BZ
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: David Giuliani
>   To: towertalk@contesting.com
>   Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:23 PM
>   Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] The tower base is poured BUT...
>
>
>
>   The more I read about this, the more I'm liking my emerging plan to dig
a
>   hole with a truck mounted auger rig -- no forms, no backfilling,
> relatively
>   small diameter surface.  We're looking at a 2' diameter hole, 25' deep.
>   Relatively simple rebar for the lower 80%.  Requires <3 cubic yards of
>   concrete. See "deep base for MA-550" for this thread.
>
>   David Giuliani, WA6PXX
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>   [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K7LXC@aol.com
>   Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 6:46 AM
>   To: k1ttt@arrl.net; towertalk@contesting.com
>   Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] The tower base is poured BUT...
>
>
>   In a message dated 10/4/03 9:54:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> k1ttt@arrl.net
>   writes:
>
>   > Doesn't anyone use forms any more???
>
>       What for? I assume you mean below grade. The concrete is supposed to
> be
>   poured into 'undisturbed' earth.
>
>       An exception would be when the walls keep sloughing; then the forms
>   would
>   be necessary but you have to be real careful to backfill after you
remove
>   the
>   forms and tamp the backfilled dirt.
>
>   Cheers,
>   Steve    K7LXC
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