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Re: Topband: C21MM

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Subject: Re: Topband: C21MM
From: Don Moman VE6JY <ve6jy.1@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 20:07:07 -0600
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I give more credit to A8OK - they had great CW signals out here in western
Canada, night after night.   Many locals worked them too. Especially strong
AFTER I struggled to work them, of course. I got them on 36 bands modes -
the extra 2 were 160!

On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 8:00 PM Wes Stewart via Topband <
topband@contesting.com> wrote:

>  The realities about some of these DXpedtions is that they are organized
> by Europeans and favor working EU. Take the just concluded (if they kept to
> schedule) PX0FF expedition.  The ops were all Europeans and >60% of their
> Qs were with EU and only 21% were with NA.  They didn't even operate 160
> CW.  They made 1046 FT8 QSOs on 160 out of >150,000 total.
>
> 8R7X was another one with EU 54% and NA 31%.  Of course propagation
> favored EU, but they were active long enough that I worked them on both 160
> CW and FT8 as well as 22 other band/modes.
> Ditto A8OK that I worked on 33 band/modes, none on topband.  EU 64%, NA
> 19%.
> I'm not trying to disparage our EU friends, I'm just pointing out the
> numbers.
>
> C21MM will be QRV for at least another week.  So far they haven't made any
> topband CW contacts and only 6 with NA presumably on FT8.  They claim to
> have installed an RX antenna, but have high noise.  So we shall see, but
> I'm not holding my breath.  To their credit they have worked about the same
> number of CW and FT8 Qs and a few on RTTY, three of them mine.
>
> AA7JV is a dedicated 160 man, who will put in the hours needed.  These
> other guys are not so motivated and want to run up their Q count by working
> the most productive bands, or by turning on the FT8 robots.
> Wes  N7WS
>
>
>     On Sunday, October 20, 2024 at 12:11:54 PM MST, Jim Brown <
> jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>
>  On 10/20/2024 11:14 AM, Steve Harrison wrote:
> > If possible, please spend some time attempting to work some North
> > American stations on *160 and/or 80m **CW*. A few minutes here and there
> > is NOT enough; HOURS on the low bands are needed in order to catch the
> > propagation peaks all across the NA and SA continents.
>
> YES! Veteran expeditioner AA7JV recognized that topband openings tended
> to happen on one or two nights of a multi-week activation, and developed
> networks to allow simultaneous operation on CW and FT8 during every hour
> there's a possibility of propagation. One of the most glaring failures
> is abandoning the band at the first hint of daylight, when propagation
> PEAKS over the next 45 minutes to an hour!
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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