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Re: Topband: C21MM

To: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>, Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: C21MM
From: Wes Stewart via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Wes Stewart <n7ws@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 01:13:37 +0000 (UTC)
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 The realities about some of these DXpedtions is that they are organized by 
Europeans and favor working EU. Take the just concluded (if they kept to 
schedule) PX0FF expedition.  The ops were all Europeans and >60% of their Qs 
were with EU and only 21% were with NA.  They didn't even operate 160 CW.  They 
made 1046 FT8 QSOs on 160 out of >150,000 total.

8R7X was another one with EU 54% and NA 31%.  Of course propagation favored EU, 
but they were active long enough that I worked them on both 160 CW and FT8 as 
well as 22 other band/modes.
Ditto A8OK that I worked on 33 band/modes, none on topband.  EU 64%, NA 19%.
I'm not trying to disparage our EU friends, I'm just pointing out the numbers.

C21MM will be QRV for at least another week.  So far they haven't made any 
topband CW contacts and only 6 with NA presumably on FT8.  They claim to have 
installed an RX antenna, but have high noise.  So we shall see, but I'm not 
holding my breath.  To their credit they have worked about the same number of 
CW and FT8 Qs and a few on RTTY, three of them mine.

AA7JV is a dedicated 160 man, who will put in the hours needed.  These other 
guys are not so motivated and want to run up their Q count by working the most 
productive bands, or by turning on the FT8 robots.
Wes  N7WS


    On Sunday, October 20, 2024 at 12:11:54 PM MST, Jim Brown 
<jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:  
 
 On 10/20/2024 11:14 AM, Steve Harrison wrote:
> If possible, please spend some time attempting to work some North
> American stations on *160 and/or 80m **CW*. A few minutes here and there
> is NOT enough; HOURS on the low bands are needed in order to catch the
> propagation peaks all across the NA and SA continents.

YES! Veteran expeditioner AA7JV recognized that topband openings tended 
to happen on one or two nights of a multi-week activation, and developed 
networks to allow simultaneous operation on CW and FT8 during every hour 
there's a possibility of propagation. One of the most glaring failures 
is abandoning the band at the first hint of daylight, when propagation 
PEAKS over the next 45 minutes to an hour!

73, Jim K9YC



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