Dietmar, my interpretation is that yes: BOTH sides of the QSO must be
initiated, or begun, by a human or the QSO does not count. In other
words, even though your computer can do all of the data translation into
human-readable text, a QSO that takes place AUTOMATICALLY by the
computer does NOT count. The operators may be either local or remote,
that doesn't matter. So, for example, George, at KH8/AA7JV, may make
digital mode QSOs while relaxing on his boat and his RIB is on the
shore, and he's controlling the RIB remotely... AS LONG as it's George
(or another operator) who is actually initiating, or beginning, the QSO.
NOTE: the ARRL made a big point of saying "initiate" QSOs; initiate, in
the English language, means to begin something. Nothing is implied about
ENDING anything, however... so the QSO can be automagically ENDED by the
computer, and it will count.
By saying "contemporaneous", the ARRL is making the point that the QSO
must be initiated (begun) at the proper time, instead of some time in
the future or past. In other words, you can't program your computer to
call and work the DXpedition in 25 minutes while you are off having
supper: you must be there at the computer and actually triggr the
conputer to initiate, or begin, the QSO.
So yes, if you set up your computer to make automagic QSOs while you run
off to sleep or to eat or drink or whatever, THAT does NOT count.
If any DXpeditions are doing that (setting up then letting the computer
run all by itself with no human initiating (beginning) the QSO, then
their QSOs, even if the far-off operator is sitting right at the
computer, do NOT count.
The next question is: can the DXpedition set up their computer to
monitor the band, then respond to and call DXers AUTOMATICALLY, with NO
human interaction, BETWEEN QSOs??
The ARRL's message says "contemporaneous direct initiation" of both
sides of the contact; so NO, letting your computer AUTOMATICALLY find
and call a DXer is NOT allowed: YOU, the DXpeditioner, must initiate the
QSO yourself, however your station does that (tuning around to find new
stations then calling them).
And by the way... with that one message, I can think of at least one
Southern California radio club member who should forfeit most of his DX
QSOs from the past 4 or 5 years, because he had his computer set up to
AUTOMATICALLY tune for, call, and work DX. He was not there during most
of his "QSOs"; he simply set up the computer and radio then came back
hours later to see what it had worked.
That's my own interpretation of what you related from the ARRL's message.
73,
Steve K0XP
On 11/28/2023 5:05 AM, Dietmar Kasper wrote:
After CQWW we dismantle the station but we are still QRV on topband maybe also
on other bands
We still have a close thunderstorm so RX is again very bad, cant copy signals
weaker as S5 strength
Got message about ARRL rules for DXCC and other awards. I myself do not operate
FT modes
so maybe one who uses it can tell me how to handle it.
ARRL does not count fully automated robot QSOs for DXCC credit.
https://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-contest-and-dxcc-rules-now-prohibit-automated-contacts
Please clarification, what does it mean ?
ARRL writes:
A resolution at the July ARRL Board of Directors meeting pointed to “growing concern
over fully automated contacts being made and claimed” for contest and DXCC credit. The
rules now require that each claimed contact include contemporaneous direct initiation by the
operator on both sides of the contact. Initiation of a contact may be either local or remote.
both sides of the contact ?
I understand that the applicant must be present at the radio to initiate and
log the contact. What about the other side (DXpedition ?)
Does initiating a contact means "I switch on radio and computer, start MSHV
software and let it running automatically logging contacts hour after hour attended
by human watching the traffic or even unattended if operator observes several bands
in parallel or go to dinner, have a beer or even go sleep ?
DXpedition is not requesting a DXCC so is that operation OK ?
If both sides must initiate and log the contact manually then my conclusion is that most of the big DXpeditions using MSHV would do wrong ? I wonder that nobody asked this question before.
still confused ...
73 Dietmar
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