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Re: Topband: Personal decision

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Personal decision
From: MU 4CX250B <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:15:05 -0800
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
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> On Feb 24, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have to demur. Government-to-government sanctions are one thing, but 
> ultimately it will come down to the Russian people turning against Putin, and 
> it's hard for me to understand why they shouldn't feel the cost of his 
> transgressions in this as in other areas.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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>> On 2/24/2022 10:38 AM, Stan Stockton wrote:
>> 100% agreement with what Tree has said.
>>
>> 73...Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:23 AM Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:
>>
>>    I also need to respond to this sentiment:
>>
>>    "it's more important at this moment to get the word out
>>    to the Russian public that their leader's ruthless behavior is scorned
>>    and despised by the majority of the world's people."
>>
>>    Perhaps - but I believe Vladimir Putin really is receiving that
>>    message
>>    clearly already - and having some ham radio operators complain to
>>    him will
>>    not really concern him.
>>
>>    This is a scary thing for everyone in the world - and the people
>>    in Russia
>>    are just as scared as we all are.  Maybe the best way to get the
>>    message
>>    out to the Russian public is to engage with them where we can.
>>
>>    Tree
>>
>>    On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:17 AM Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:
>>
>>    > Guys - I need to step in here.
>>    >
>>    > This is not what ham radio people do.
>>    >
>>    > The Russian ham that you are pretending to punish is not the person
>>    > responsible for what is happening in Ukraine.
>>    >
>>    > Think about the situation if you were a USA ham - and some other ham
>>    > decided not to work you because they did not like the decisions
>>    someone in
>>    > Washington had made.
>>    >
>>    > Throughout my ham career - I have enjoyed the opportunity to
>>    meet people
>>    > in places that I was taught were bad places and become to
>>    understand that
>>    > they were people just like me - and were perhaps more helpless
>>    to control
>>    > their government than I can control mine.
>>    >
>>    > We all have worked Russians over the years - and I bet almost
>>    everyone
>>    > here would be in the pileup if a station from North Korea came
>>    on the air.
>>    >
>>    > I will always feel the best hope for humanity is to get to know
>>    each other
>>    > and understand each other's situation better and have some
>>    understanding.
>>    > Ham radio is one way to break down the political barriers and
>>    get to know
>>    > real people.
>>    >
>>    > I have kind of felt sorry for the stations currently using D1 as a
>>    > prefix.  They are just pawns in a chess game and through no
>>    fault of their
>>    > own, ended up in a situation where they couldn't get a license.
>>    They came
>>    > up with a work around that allowed them to get on the air.  If I
>>    was in
>>    > their situation, I would probably do the same thing.
>>    >
>>    > If Vladimir Putin were a ham, I could understand you deciding
>>    not to work
>>    > him - but let's not pretend our friends who we have been working
>>    over the
>>    > years are responsible.
>>    >
>>    > I will not tolerate anything less from the members of this list.
>>    >
>>    > 73 Tree N6TR
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >
>>    > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 5:46 AM Pete Smith N4ZR
>>    <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
>>    > wrote:
>>    >
>>    >> Yup.  Me too.
>>    >>
>>    >> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>    >> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>>    >> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
>>    >> For spots, please use your favorite
>>    >> "retail" DX cluster.
>>    >>
>>    >> On 2/24/2022 8:03 AM, MU 4CX250B wrote:
>>    >> > Good move, Mark. We all know the current assault on Ukraine
>>    is not the
>>    >> > fault of our many good Russian ham buddies, and while I know
>>    we all
>>    >> > wish them well, it's more important at this moment to get the
>>    word out
>>    >> > to the Russisn public that their leader's ruthless behavior
>>    is scorned
>>    >> > and despised by the majority of the world's people.
>>    >> > 73,
>>    >> > Jim w8zr
>>    >> >
>>    >> > Sent from my iPhone
>>    >> >
>>    >> >> On Feb 24, 2022, at 5:33 AM, Mpridesti via Topband<
>>    >> topband@contesting.com> wrote:
>>    >> >>
>>    >> >> 
>>    >> >>> I plan to NOT work any Russian stations during the ARRL DX SSB
>>    >> contest as
>>    >> >>> I  object to the in unprovoked war they started.
>>    >> >>>
>>    >> >>> Ukraine hams have already shut down.
>>    >> >> Regards,
>>    >> >>
>>    >> >> Mark, K1RX
>>    >> >>
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