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Re: Topband: Personal decision

To: wa5rtg@gmail.com, Tree <tree@kkn.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: Personal decision
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 11:24:23 -0500
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
I have to demur. Government-to-government sanctions are one thing, but ultimately it will come down to the Russian people turning against Putin, and it's hard for me to understand why they shouldn't feel the cost of his transgressions in this as in other areas.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 2/24/2022 10:38 AM, Stan Stockton wrote:
100% agreement with what Tree has said.

73...Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:23 AM Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:

    I also need to respond to this sentiment:

    "it's more important at this moment to get the word out
    to the Russian public that their leader's ruthless behavior is scorned
    and despised by the majority of the world's people."

    Perhaps - but I believe Vladimir Putin really is receiving that
    message
    clearly already - and having some ham radio operators complain to
    him will
    not really concern him.

    This is a scary thing for everyone in the world - and the people
    in Russia
    are just as scared as we all are.  Maybe the best way to get the
    message
    out to the Russian public is to engage with them where we can.

    Tree

    On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:17 AM Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:

    > Guys - I need to step in here.
    >
    > This is not what ham radio people do.
    >
    > The Russian ham that you are pretending to punish is not the person
    > responsible for what is happening in Ukraine.
    >
    > Think about the situation if you were a USA ham - and some other ham
    > decided not to work you because they did not like the decisions
    someone in
    > Washington had made.
    >
    > Throughout my ham career - I have enjoyed the opportunity to
    meet people
    > in places that I was taught were bad places and become to
    understand that
    > they were people just like me - and were perhaps more helpless
    to control
    > their government than I can control mine.
    >
    > We all have worked Russians over the years - and I bet almost
    everyone
    > here would be in the pileup if a station from North Korea came
    on the air.
    >
    > I will always feel the best hope for humanity is to get to know
    each other
    > and understand each other's situation better and have some
    understanding.
    > Ham radio is one way to break down the political barriers and
    get to know
    > real people.
    >
    > I have kind of felt sorry for the stations currently using D1 as a
    > prefix.  They are just pawns in a chess game and through no
    fault of their
    > own, ended up in a situation where they couldn't get a license. 
    They came
    > up with a work around that allowed them to get on the air.  If I
    was in
    > their situation, I would probably do the same thing.
    >
    > If Vladimir Putin were a ham, I could understand you deciding
    not to work
    > him - but let's not pretend our friends who we have been working
    over the
    > years are responsible.
    >
    > I will not tolerate anything less from the members of this list.
    >
    > 73 Tree N6TR
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 5:46 AM Pete Smith N4ZR
    <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Yup.  Me too.
    >>
    >> 73, Pete N4ZR
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    >> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
    >> For spots, please use your favorite
    >> "retail" DX cluster.
    >>
    >> On 2/24/2022 8:03 AM, MU 4CX250B wrote:
    >> > Good move, Mark. We all know the current assault on Ukraine
    is not the
    >> > fault of our many good Russian ham buddies, and while I know
    we all
    >> > wish them well, it's more important at this moment to get the
    word out
    >> > to the Russisn public that their leader's ruthless behavior
    is scorned
    >> > and despised by the majority of the world's people.
    >> > 73,
    >> > Jim w8zr
    >> >
    >> > Sent from my iPhone
    >> >
    >> >> On Feb 24, 2022, at 5:33 AM, Mpridesti via Topband<
    >> topband@contesting.com> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> 
    >> >>> I plan to NOT work any Russian stations during the ARRL DX SSB
    >> contest as
    >> >>> I  object to the in unprovoked war they started.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Ukraine hams have already shut down.
    >> >> Regards,
    >> >>
    >> >> Mark, K1RX
    >> >>
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