» Nikolai, do you call your Ukrainian friends those whom you suspect or accuse
of some kind of fraud after each 160m contest?
?
This is not the place where you should write accusations and other nonsense
that you have been doing for years.
You sent a link to the TOPBanders Ukraine website, please move all your
internal proceedings inward.
Thanks!
Hi Eugene!
You’re absolutely right!
And I’m not trolling here like this person.
I guess readers here are not aware of his appearances in local ex USSR Forums
with his permanent whining. He behaves as a typical troll and his aim is to
substitute a normal discussion into gossiping on any issue trying to turn a
verbal skirmish into a scandalous showdown
He can easily move his «True Power Contesting issues in Ukraine» to their local
forums ( which they don’t even have — as an online platform hihi!). By the way
— he is holding his local «160 m Ukrainian site» and has his Telegram and
Instagram as well. But I guess it’s not enough for him and he wants to complain
about his colleagues on the international level and draw the attention of
readers of this group to his domestic issues. He is even using military
terminology i.e «... performed by a fighter from the valiant US1Q brigade» or «
We will not surrender to them alive :-)». Do we really need politics and
militarism here, guys?
>I am not familiar with the lawyer UA3AGW from Russia.
>
>I have no idea who it is?
( by the way, I am not «IT» but «HE» — learn ENGLISH first and throw away your
Google translator, buddy!)
Maybe he is not even familiar with Victor, US5WE — his local checkpoint and TB
Reflector Moderator, whom he had already driven nuts a long time ago hihi ! ?
And when you are reading something like above — you should never believe his
stories and tales. He knows me well and can easily refresh his memory by
visiting my QRZ.com page. There are not so many HR#1s and 160-WAS/WAS holders
in Russia and Ukraine.
To finalize this off-topic — I would like to ask the Moderator to give this
person a Final Warning, and I hope that your readers and subscribers will agree
with me.
I'm sorry to have taken up your precious time reading this nonsense. Let's at
least live in peace here!
73’s! Sincerely,
Dima, UA3AGW
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 13:20:24 -0500
>From: Kenny Silverman < kenny.k2kw@gmail.com >
>To: topband@contesting.com
>Subject: Topband: Wednesday DX CW Activity Night
>Message-ID: < 54A8BADE-8465-44C5-9BAD-03EF4AE09013@gmail.com >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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>YRO says: DX Propagation has again been reasonable the past few nights, but
>not many
>stations on the band.
>
>Conditions last night were pretty good from Virginia, though the band
>conditions seem to peak after 0230z. VU2GSM was heard at his sunrise but I
>think I was the only caller. He said he didn?t work anyone last night.
>
>Regards , Kenny K2KW
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2022 18:40:54 +0000
>From: W3HKK@roadrunner.com
>To: "' topband@contesting.com '" < topband@contesting.com >
>Subject: Re: Topband: CW activity
>Message-ID: <778208300dcf53db4578aafaada55b12d23db71e@webmail>
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>
>Roger, I stopped by the shack last night to listen for sigs...heard
>nothing for 15 minutes or so. til the xyl called me to watch the
>Olympics.
>
>I need to warm up the amp and put out a few CQs instead of listening.
>Maybe tonight.
>
>Bob
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 17:48:17 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Mamuka Kordzakhia
> To: " topband@contesting.com "
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 230, Issue 9
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> May I open a new Topic?
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 09:00:54 PM GMT+4, wrote:
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> ? 1. 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
> ? 2. Re: 8 Circle question (w5zn@w5zn.org)
> ? 3. Re: 8 Circle question (Mike Fatchett)
> ? 4. Re: 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
> ? 5. Re: 8 Circle question (Joe Subich, W4TV)
> ? 6. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
> ? 7. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
> ? 8. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
> ? 9. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
> ? 10. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:38:09 -0500
> From: Jim Miller
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: 8 Circle question
> Message-ID:
> ???
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on
>the
> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>my
> neighbor's property.
>
> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern
>if
> switched toward those directions?? I'd terminate the removed lines
>with 75
> ohm terminations of course.
>
> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if
>needed.
>
> 73
>
> Jim ab3cv
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 14:43:41 -0700
> From: w5zn@w5zn.org
> To: Jim Miller
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Jim,
>
> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>
> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>
> 73 Joel W5ZN
>
> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
> > I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on
>the
> > circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be
>on
> > my
> > neighbor's property.
> >
> > If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
> > (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern
>if
> > switched toward those directions?? I'd terminate the removed lines
>with
> > 75
> > ohm terminations of course.
> >
> > I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on
>the
> > circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if
>needed.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Jim ab3cv
> > _________________
> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [1] -
>Topband
> > Reflector
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 14:45:17 -0700
> From: Mike Fatchett
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> You might consider the 9 circle which uses 3 verticals for each
> direction.? It might be interesting to model that with missing
>elements
> in those directions but the other directions should work just fine.
>
> The 8 circle uses 2 pair of phased elements.? It is hard to speculate
> not know which elements would be missing.? It would seem to reason
>the
> the intact pairs would work fine.
>
> Most 8 circles do not have a center element.? That would be a 9.
>
> W0MU
>
> On 2/7/2022 2:38 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> > I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on
>the
> > circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be
>on my
> > neighbor's property.
> >
> > If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
> > (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern
>if
> > switched toward those directions?? I'd terminate the removed lines
>with 75
> > ohm terminations of course.
> >
> > I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on
>the
> > circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if
>needed.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Jim ab3cv
> > _________________
> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [2] -
>Topband Reflector
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:45:39 -0500
> From: Jim Miller
> To: w5zn@w5zn.org
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
> Message-ID:
> ???
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3
>element
> endfire in each direction.
>
> I'm obviously limited in space here...
>
> Thanks and sorry for the confusion
>
> jim ab3cv
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the
>Broad
> > Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
> >
> > The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF
>array
> > only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
> >
> > 73 Joel W5ZN
> >
> >
> > On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
> > > I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas
>on the
> > > circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would
>be on
> > > my
> > > neighbor's property.
> > >
> > > If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for
>each
> > > (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid
>pattern if
> > > switched toward those directions?? I'd terminate the removed
>lines with
> > > 75
> > > ohm terminations of course.
> > >
> > > I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on
>the
> > > circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if
>needed.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Jim ab3cv
> > > _________________
> > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [3] -
>Topband
> > > Reflector
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:54:15 -0500
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV"
> To: Jim Miller , "[Topband]"
> ???
> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> > I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3
>element
> > endfire in each direction.
>
> The 9 circle (3 element endfire) uses approximately 1:2:1 element
> "drive".? Removing one of the end elements will not yield a "clean"
> pattern but you would need to model both 0:2:1 and 1:2:0 arrays to
> see if the remnant pattern would be acceptable.
>
> 73,
>
> ? ? ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> > I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3
>element
> > endfire in each direction.
> >
> > I'm obviously limited in space here...
> >
> > Thanks and sorry for the confusion
> >
> > jim ab3cv
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM wrote:
> >
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the
>Broad
> >> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
> >>
> >> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF
>array
> >> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
> >>
> >> 73 Joel W5ZN
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
> >>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas
>on the
> >>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would
>be on
> >>> my
> >>> neighbor's property.
> >>>
> >>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for
>each
> >>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid
>pattern if
> >>> switched toward those directions?? I'd terminate the removed
>lines with
> >>> 75
> >>> ohm terminations of course.
> >>>
> >>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on
>the
> >>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if
>needed.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>>
> >>> Jim ab3cv
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:45:32 -0000
> From: "Roger Kennedy"
> To:
> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii"
>
> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . .
>.
>
> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>
> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) .
>. . but
> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours
>compared to
> last year !
>
> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe .
>. .
> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high
>power
> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>
> Roger G3YRO
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 07:48:54 +0200
> From: uy0zg
> To: Roger Kennedy
> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
> ???
> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Roger
>
> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
>
> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
>
> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only
>two
> categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
>
> UW0K is not my callsign .............
>
> ---
> Nick, UY0ZG
>http://www.topband.in.ua [4]
>
> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
> > Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make .
>. .
> >
> > Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
> >
> > Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power)
>. .
> > . but
> > you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours
>compared
> > to
> > last year !
> >
> > I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe
>. .
> > .
> > but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run
>high
> > power
> > in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you !
>(as
> > demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
> >
> > Roger G3YRO
> >
> > _________________
> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [5] -
>Topband
> > Reflector
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 08:07:35 +0200
> From: uy0zg
> To: Roger Kennedy
> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
> ???
> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Roger
>
> another example of a "super" LOW performed by a fighter from the
>valiant
> US1Q brigade:
>
> Raw? 2021 CQ WW CW Contest
>
> CW / UT2IV / Assisted Low 160 Meters
> 1 UT2IV..............74,820
>
> And here's what the real HIGH looks like..... :
>
> CW / UY0ZG / Assisted High 160 Meters
>
> 2 UY0ZG..............70,799
>
> 3 UX0KR.............69,012
>
> ---
> Nick, UY0ZG
>http://www.topband.in.ua [6]
>
> uy0zg ????? 2022-02-08 07:48:
> > Roger
> >
> > I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
> >
> > I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
> >
> >
> > I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only
> > two categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
> >
> > UW0K is not my callsign .............
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Nick, UY0ZG
> > http://www.topband.in.ua [7]
> >
> > Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
> >> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make .
>. .
> >>
> >> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
> >>
> >> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power)
>. .
> >> . but
> >> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours
>compared
> >> to
> >> last year !
> >>
> >> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around
>Europe .
> >> . .
> >> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run
>high
> >> power
> >> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you !
>(as
> >> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
> >>
> >> Roger G3YRO
> >>
> >> _________________
> >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [8] -
>Topband
> >> Reflector
> > _________________
> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [9] -
>Topband
> > Reflector
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 08:52:12 -0000
> From: "Roger Kennedy"
> To:
> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii"
>
> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic
>!
>
> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special
>Contest
> Callsign that YOU were using.
>
> 73 Roger G3YRO
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:05:54 +0200
> From: uy0zg
> To: Roger Kennedy
> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
> ???
> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Thank you for understanding me, Roger
>
> We will not surrender to them alive :-)))))))))))))))))))
>
> ---
> Nick, UY0ZG
>http://www.topband.in.ua [10]
>
> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 10:52:
> > Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being
>sarcastic !
> >
> > Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special
>Contest
> > Callsign that YOU were using.
> >
> > 73 Roger G3YRO
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________
> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [11] -
>Topband
> > Reflector
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
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>
> End of Topband Digest, Vol 230, Issue 9
> ***************************************
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 23:22:35 -0000
> From: "Roger Kennedy"
> To:
> Subject: Topband: Wednesday CW DX Activity Night
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Just another reminder, to try and stir up activity on CW . . .
>
> DX Propagation has again been reasonable the past few nights, but not
>many
> stations on the band.
>
> So hope to see you on tomorrow night/Thursday morning.
>
> And do please Spot any stations you hear calling CQ on the DX
>Cluster, as
> that again seems to really encourage more stations to come on the
>band.
> (plus the Cluster then won't just be full of all the FT8 stations!)
>
> 73 Roger G3YRO
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
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>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 04:26:46 +0300
>From: UA3AGW Dmitry Zaslavsky < ua3agw@mail.ru >
>To: topband@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 230, Issue 9
>Message-ID: < 1644456406.402258485@f416.i.mail.ru >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
>
>Dear?Nikolay, UY0ZG?!
>?
>Can you please stop shitting on your Ukranian colleagues at least in the
>international group ! Believe me ??It?s not interesting to anyone here.
>Moreover ??everybody @ Russian QRZ.ru Forums are so much tired of your
>trolling and whinning that you have been already banned by many moderators.?
>And now I see you've found a new loophole for your restless temper.?Be aware
>that this?resource was not created?for those who have a?desire and habit?to
>keep throwing mud at everything like you, man!?
>No matter whether you?re an?experienced Topbander or just a starter? ??you
>should respect another subscribers here. Just look what other?people are
>writing about here. Better share your antenna experiments and TB DXing
>issues,?achievements?or any other TB related topics and you?ll be more than
>welcome!??
>?
>I wish you a ?miraculous healing? from this?fancy and?bizarre style of
>communication, which you have repeatedly demonstrated to us on the pages of
>this thematic reflector
>?
>Best 73?s from friendly Russia !
>?
>Dima, UA3AGW
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>>
>>???1. 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
>>???2. Re: 8 Circle question (w5zn@w5zn.org)
>>???3. Re: 8 Circle question (Mike Fatchett)
>>???4. Re: 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
>>???5. Re: 8 Circle question (Joe Subich, W4TV)
>>???6. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
>>???7. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>>???8. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>>???9. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
>>??10. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:38:09 -0500
>>From: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>>To: topband@contesting.com
>>Subject: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>Message-ID:
>>< CACYeN9wdGsryOTuRAbJfKadL0FHrMAgYQN-6PwnagpjpCGqkvg@mail.gmail.com >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>>I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my
>>neighbor's property.
>>
>>If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>(opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75
>>ohm terminations of course.
>>
>>I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>
>>73
>>
>>Jim ab3cv
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 2
>>Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 14:43:41 -0700
>>From: w5zn@w5zn.org
>>To: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>>Cc: topband@contesting.com
>>Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>Message-ID: < ca7ae5067722b640e8c8ddfa07254155@w5zn.org >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>>Jim,
>>
>>Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>
>>The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>
>>73 Joel W5ZN
>>
>>
>>On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>> my
>>> neighbor's property.
>>>
>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>> 75
>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>
>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Jim ab3cv
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 3
>>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 14:45:17 -0700
>>From: Mike Fatchett < w0mu@w0mu.com >
>>To: topband@contesting.com
>>Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>Message-ID: < d0642aed-1c87-662c-70bc-511011ab75fb@w0mu.com >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>>You might consider the 9 circle which uses 3 verticals for each
>>direction.? It might be interesting to model that with missing elements
>>in those directions but the other directions should work just fine.
>>
>>The 8 circle uses 2 pair of phased elements.? It is hard to speculate
>>not know which elements would be missing.? It would seem to reason the
>>the intact pairs would work fine.
>>
>>Most 8 circles do not have a center element.? That would be a 9.
>>
>>W0MU
>>
>>On 2/7/2022 2:38 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my
>>> neighbor's property.
>>>
>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75
>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>
>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Jim ab3cv
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:45:39 -0500
>>From: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>>To: w5zn@w5zn.org
>>Cc: topband@contesting.com
>>Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>Message-ID:
>>< CACYeN9zj-dJaqEgYFKFMhty96SC7Uv=C9_bFieMiF-Mu2npMpg@mail.gmail.com >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>>I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>>endfire in each direction.
>>
>>I'm obviously limited in space here...
>>
>>Thanks and sorry for the confusion
>>
>>jim ab3cv
>>
>>On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < w5zn@w5zn.org > wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>>
>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>>
>>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> > I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>> > circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>> > my
>>> > neighbor's property.
>>> >
>>> > If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>> > (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>> > switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>> > 75
>>> > ohm terminations of course.
>>> >
>>> > I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>> > circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>> >
>>> > 73
>>> >
>>> > Jim ab3cv
>>> > _________________
>>> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> > Reflector
>>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 5
>>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:54:15 -0500
>>From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" < lists@subich.com >
>>To: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >, "[Topband]"
>>< topband@contesting.com >
>>Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>Message-ID: < 1a3a7521-cba6-bf73-27db-a2965415f7ec@subich.com >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>>
>>On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>?> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>>?> endfire in each direction.
>>
>>The 9 circle (3 element endfire) uses approximately 1:2:1 element
>>"drive". Removing one of the end elements will not yield a "clean"
>>pattern but you would need to model both 0:2:1 and 1:2:0 arrays to
>>see if the remnant pattern would be acceptable.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>????... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>>> endfire in each direction.
>>>
>>> I'm obviously limited in space here...
>>>
>>> Thanks and sorry for the confusion
>>>
>>> jim ab3cv
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < w5zn@w5zn.org > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>>>
>>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>>>> my
>>>>> neighbor's property.
>>>>>
>>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>>>> 75
>>>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 6
>>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:45:32 -0000
>>From: "Roger Kennedy" < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>To: < topband@contesting.com >
>>Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>Message-ID: <2D0F563663244CC892DBC15664030A51@Packard>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>>Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>
>>Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>
>>Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . . . but
>>you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared to
>>last year !
>>
>>I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . . .
>>but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high power
>>in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>
>>Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 7
>>Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 07:48:54 +0200
>>From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>>To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>>< topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>>Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>Message-ID: < 8e307bc7e1126e8d8df2a6f5854629e6@mksat.net >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>>Roger
>>
>>I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
>>
>>I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
>>
>>
>>I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only two
>>categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
>>
>>UW0K is not my callsign ..............
>>
>>
>>---
>>Nick, UY0ZG
>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>
>>Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>>
>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>>
>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . .
>>> . but
>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared
>>> to
>>> last year !
>>>
>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . .
>>> .
>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high
>>> power
>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>>
>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 8
>>Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 08:07:35 +0200
>>From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>>To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>>< topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>>Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>Message-ID: < e3746eae657b0d9867038d481df16d75@mksat.net >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>>Roger
>>
>>
>>another example of a "super" LOW performed by a fighter from the valiant
>>US1Q brigade:
>>
>>Raw 2021 CQ WW CW Contest
>>
>>
>>CW / UT2IV / Assisted Low 160 Meters
>>1 UT2IV..............74,820
>>
>>And here's what the real HIGH looks like..... :
>>
>>CW / UY0ZG / Assisted High 160 Meters
>>
>>2 UY0ZG..............70,799
>>
>>3 UX0KR..............69,012
>>
>>---
>>Nick, UY0ZG
>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>
>>uy0zg ????? 2022-02-08 07:48:
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
>>>
>>> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only
>>> two categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
>>>
>>> UW0K is not my callsign ..............
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>
>>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
>>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>>>
>>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . .
>>>> . but
>>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared
>>>> to
>>>> last year !
>>>>
>>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe .
>>>> . .
>>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high
>>>> power
>>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>>>
>>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>>
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 9
>>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 08:52:12 -0000
>>From: "Roger Kennedy" < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>To: < topband@contesting.com >
>>Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>Message-ID: <36286A84A8374435A1F80C31B6949646@Packard>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>>Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic !
>>
>>Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest
>>Callsign that YOU were using.
>>
>>73 Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 10
>>Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:05:54 +0200
>>From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>>To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>>< topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>>Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>Message-ID: < 9a41d6d343739cd3455d44da05eaa767@mksat.net >
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>>Thank you for understanding me, Roger
>>
>>We will not surrender to them alive :-)))))))))))))))))))
>>
>>---
>>Nick, UY0ZG
>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>
>>Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 10:52:
>>> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic !
>>>
>>> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest
>>> Callsign that YOU were using.
>>>
>>> 73 Roger G3YRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
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>?
>?
>--
>Dmitry Zaslavsky
>?????????? ?? ????? Mail.ru
>?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 21:51:46 -0600
>From: Cecil acuff < chacuff@gmail.com >
>To: UA3AGW Dmitry Zaslavsky < ua3agw@mail.ru >
>Cc: topband@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 230, Issue 9
>Message-ID: < 9565544B-C070-455B-A449-8489887ED7FB@gmail.com >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>Inappropriate for this group?.
>
>Please take it elsewhere!
>
>K5DL
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:27 PM, UA3AGW Dmitry Zaslavsky via Topband <
>> topband@contesting.com > wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Dear Nikolay, UY0ZG !
>>
>> Can you please stop shitting on your Ukranian colleagues at least in the
>> international group ! Believe me ? It?s not interesting to anyone here.
>> Moreover ? everybody @ Russian QRZ.ru Forums are so much tired of your
>> trolling and whinning that you have been already banned by many moderators.
>> And now I see you've found a new loophole for your restless temper. Be aware
>> that this resource was not created for those who have a desire and habit to
>> keep throwing mud at everything like you, man!
>> No matter whether you?re an experienced Topbander or just a starter ? you
>> should respect another subscribers here. Just look what other people are
>> writing about here. Better share your antenna experiments and TB DXing
>> issues, achievements or any other TB related topics and you?ll be more than
>> welcome!
>>
>> I wish you a ?miraculous healing? from this fancy and bizarre style of
>> communication, which you have repeatedly demonstrated to us on the pages of
>> this thematic reflector
>>
>> Best 73?s from friendly Russia !
>>
>> Dima, UA3AGW
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>>> 1. 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
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>>> 3. Re: 8 Circle question (Mike Fatchett)
>>> 4. Re: 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
>>> 5. Re: 8 Circle question (Joe Subich, W4TV)
>>> 6. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
>>> 7. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>>> 8. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>>> 9. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
>>> 10. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:38:09 -0500
>>> From: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>>> To: topband@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>> Message-ID:
>>> < CACYeN9wdGsryOTuRAbJfKadL0FHrMAgYQN-6PwnagpjpCGqkvg@mail.gmail.com >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my
>>> neighbor's property.
>>>
>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75
>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>
>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Jim ab3cv
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 14:43:41 -0700
>>> From: w5zn@w5zn.org
>>> To: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>>> Cc: topband@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>> Message-ID: < ca7ae5067722b640e8c8ddfa07254155@w5zn.org >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>>
>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>>
>>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>>> my
>>>> neighbor's property.
>>>>
>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>>> 75
>>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>>
>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 14:45:17 -0700
>>> From: Mike Fatchett < w0mu@w0mu.com >
>>> To: topband@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>> Message-ID: < d0642aed-1c87-662c-70bc-511011ab75fb@w0mu.com >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> You might consider the 9 circle which uses 3 verticals for each
>>> direction.? It might be interesting to model that with missing elements
>>> in those directions but the other directions should work just fine.
>>>
>>> The 8 circle uses 2 pair of phased elements.? It is hard to speculate
>>> not know which elements would be missing.? It would seem to reason the
>>> the intact pairs would work fine.
>>>
>>> Most 8 circles do not have a center element.? That would be a 9.
>>>
>>> W0MU
>>>
>>>> On 2/7/2022 2:38 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my
>>>> neighbor's property.
>>>>
>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75
>>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>>
>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:45:39 -0500
>>> From: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>>> To: w5zn@w5zn.org
>>> Cc: topband@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>> Message-ID:
>>> < CACYeN9zj-dJaqEgYFKFMhty96SC7Uv=C9_bFieMiF-Mu2npMpg@mail.gmail.com >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>>> endfire in each direction.
>>>
>>> I'm obviously limited in space here...
>>>
>>> Thanks and sorry for the confusion
>>>
>>> jim ab3cv
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < w5zn@w5zn.org > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>>>
>>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>>>> my
>>>>> neighbor's property.
>>>>>
>>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>>>> 75
>>>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>>>> _________________
>>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>>> Reflector
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:54:15 -0500
>>> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" < lists@subich.com >
>>> To: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >, "[Topband]"
>>> < topband@contesting.com >
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>>> Message-ID: < 1a3a7521-cba6-bf73-27db-a2965415f7ec@subich.com >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> > I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>>> > endfire in each direction.
>>>
>>> The 9 circle (3 element endfire) uses approximately 1:2:1 element
>>> "drive". Removing one of the end elements will not yield a "clean"
>>> pattern but you would need to model both 0:2:1 and 1:2:0 arrays to
>>> see if the remnant pattern would be acceptable.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>>>> endfire in each direction.
>>>>
>>>> I'm obviously limited in space here...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and sorry for the confusion
>>>>
>>>> jim ab3cv
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < w5zn@w5zn.org > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>>>>
>>>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> neighbor's property.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>>>>> 75
>>>>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:45:32 -0000
>>> From: "Roger Kennedy" < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>> To: < topband@contesting.com >
>>> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>> Message-ID: <2D0F563663244CC892DBC15664030A51@Packard>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>>
>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>>
>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>>
>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . . . but
>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared to
>>> last year !
>>>
>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . . .
>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high power
>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>>
>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 07:48:54 +0200
>>> From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>>> To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>>> < topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>> Message-ID: < 8e307bc7e1126e8d8df2a6f5854629e6@mksat.net >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
>>>
>>> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only two
>>> categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
>>>
>>> UW0K is not my callsign ..............
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>
>>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
>>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>>>
>>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . .
>>>> . but
>>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared
>>>> to
>>>> last year !
>>>>
>>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . .
>>>> .
>>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high
>>>> power
>>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>>>
>>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>>
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 08:07:35 +0200
>>> From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>>> To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>>> < topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>> Message-ID: < e3746eae657b0d9867038d481df16d75@mksat.net >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>> another example of a "super" LOW performed by a fighter from the valiant
>>> US1Q brigade:
>>>
>>> Raw 2021 CQ WW CW Contest
>>>
>>>
>>> CW / UT2IV / Assisted Low 160 Meters
>>> 1 UT2IV..............74,820
>>>
>>> And here's what the real HIGH looks like..... :
>>>
>>> CW / UY0ZG / Assisted High 160 Meters
>>>
>>> 2 UY0ZG..............70,799
>>>
>>> 3 UX0KR..............69,012
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>
>>> uy0zg ????? 2022-02-08 07:48:
>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
>>>>
>>>> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only
>>>> two categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
>>>>
>>>> UW0K is not my callsign ..............
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>>
>>>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
>>>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . .
>>>>> . but
>>>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared
>>>>> to
>>>>> last year !
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe .
>>>>> . .
>>>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high
>>>>> power
>>>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________
>>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>>> Reflector
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 08:52:12 -0000
>>> From: "Roger Kennedy" < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>> To: < topband@contesting.com >
>>> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>> Message-ID: <36286A84A8374435A1F80C31B6949646@Packard>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic !
>>>
>>> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest
>>> Callsign that YOU were using.
>>>
>>> 73 Roger G3YRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:05:54 +0200
>>> From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>>> To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>>> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>>> < topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>>> Message-ID: < 9a41d6d343739cd3455d44da05eaa767@mksat.net >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Thank you for understanding me, Roger
>>>
>>> We will not surrender to them alive :-)))))))))))))))))))
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>
>>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 10:52:
>>>> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic !
>>>>
>>>> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest
>>>> Callsign that YOU were using.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Roger G3YRO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:19:06 +0200
>From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>To: Topband < topband@contesting.com >
>Subject: Topband: UA3AGW ??
>Message-ID: < db98eeff039825e7fed88cea9bc30bce@mksat.net >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>
>Hey
>
>Some kind of provocation.
>
>I am not familiar with the lawyer UA3AGW from Russia.
>
>I have no idea who it is?
>
> In my country Ukraine, all honest and good radio amateurs are my
>friends.
>
>http://www.topband.in.ua/
>
>---
>Nick, UY0ZG
>
>UA3AGW Dmitry Zaslavsky via Topband ????? 2022-02-10 03:26:
>> Dear?Nikolay, UY0ZG?!
>> ?
>> Can you please stop shitting on your Ukranian colleagues at least in
>> the international group !
>
>--------
>> Best 73?s from friendly Russia !
>> ?
>> Dima, UA3AGW
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 08:54:21 +0300
>From: Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ < ra0ff@mail.ru >
>To: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >, topband < topband@contesting.com >
>Subject: Re: Topband: UA3AGW ??
>Message-ID: < 1644472461.156838495@f419.i.mail.ru >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
>
>?
>?
>73! Eugene, RA0FF
>http://wwwq.qsl.net/ra0ff /
>https://twitter.com/ra0ff/
>https://www.instagram.com/eugenera0ff/
>?
>?
>>???????, 10 ??????? 2022, 16:19 +11:00 ?? uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >:
>>?
>>
>>Hey
>>
>>Some kind of provocation.
>>
>>I am not familiar with the lawyer UA3AGW from Russia.
>>
>>I have no idea who it is?
>>
>>??In my country Ukraine, all honest and good radio amateurs are my
>>friends.
>>
>> http://www.topband.in.ua/
>>
>>---
>>Nick, UY0ZG
>>
>>UA3AGW Dmitry Zaslavsky via Topband ????? 2022-02-10 03:26:
>>> Dear?Nikolay, UY0ZG?!
>>> ?
>>> Can you please stop shitting on your Ukranian colleagues at least in
>>> the international group !
>>
>>--------
>>> Best 73?s from friendly Russia !
>>> ?
>>> Dima, UA3AGW
>>_________________
>>Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
>?
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