Europe was fair here in Ohio, Andree, with a few strong sigs. Most
everyone I call I worked, but wasnt focusing on DX, since rate is King
in that contest. And propagation was very good to excellent all around
the US and VE. So your competition was indeed quite strong. I had no
issues with QRN.
Re: your hearing better than you worked comment- In the past couple of
weeks I went through periods where Id work a strong Euro station and
give a 569-589 report, only to get a 339 or 459 report back. And only
after many repeats. So Ive come to accept that one-way skip is a
periodic malaise on TB.
I did not hear you in this particular contest. but only worked a
couple of DL's.
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1. ARRL160m and TO9W (Andree DL8LAS)
2. Need antenna help (FRED BELGHAUS)
3. Re: Need antenna help (Artek Manuals)
4. Re: Need antenna help (FRED BELGHAUS)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 09:11:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Andree DL8LAS
To: "topband@contesting.com"
Subject: Topband: ARRL160m and TO9W
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Hey gentlemen,
I worked last weekend in ARRL 160m contest as DR5X.Condx were not
very good, and it was difficult to breakthe US/US pileup as an small
EU station.In the first night? I worked 110xUS with 38 sections.Second
night? I worked hard on K5NA, but no QSO possible.
Signals were not bad, but most stations can't? copy my call.Today
TO9W had a good signal here, made my QSO at 02:56
UTC.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPeEyiHGFXM73 [1] Andy DL8LAS
www.dl8las.com
www.swing-company-bigband.de/
www.uni-big-band-kiel.de/
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 10:29:25 -0500
From: FRED BELGHAUS
To: Topband Reflector
Subject: Topband: Need antenna help
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Gentlemen:
I am trying to assist a friend from my local radio club in his
efforts to
get his station on 160. He has a 43 foot vertical with 60 ground
mounted
radials, and an AATU at the base. He sends DC on the coax to operate
the
AATU.
I would think that it might be possible to add a horizontal wire at
the
top, and switch in the
additional length to convert the vertical into an inverted L for 160,
but
the specifics of how best to do this are not clear to me. I imagine a
vacuum relay would be the best method, but where should it be
located, and
so on.
Rather than trying a number of possible things that might work (but
not
very well), I am asking the experts on this list to provide the best
method, with specific instructions as to how to accomplish this, or
provide
a reasonable alternative method that would produce successful results
on
160.
I can furnish my friend's email for direct contact with him.
Many thanks in advance for your assistance.
73,
Fred W2AAB
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 10:57:20 -0500
From: Artek Manuals
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Need antenna help
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The first question to ask is what is the operating goal for 160.
1) Local net or rag chew with his buddies.? In that case use the
existing vertical assuming the AATU can match it is enough . Might
have
to a add lump loading coil at base? to get it the point AATU can deal
with it . Generally this is a low impedance solution and likely a
good
open frame style relay with 10-20 amp contacts area will be fine
2) Casual worked all states and occasional EU DX especially from NE
USA
. I worked a fair amount of DX years ago using only a 33ft Butternut
vertical and a KW which for all practical purposes is a simple base
loaded vertical
3) Is high power involved or is this a? barefoot operation?
4) If he really wants to be heard ( and be able to switch the
neighbors
touch lamps on and off at 25 wpm ..chuckle) then switched in top
loading
wires and 1500W amp is the reality. OR move to the county and put up
some real antennas.
Dave
NR1DX
On 12/7/2021 10:29 AM, FRED BELGHAUS wrote:
> Gentlemen:
>
> I am trying to assist a friend from my local radio club in his
efforts to
> get his station on 160. He has a 43 foot vertical with 60 ground
mounted
> radials, and an AATU at the base. He sends DC on the coax to
operate the
> AATU.
>
> I would think that it might be possible to add a horizontal wire at
the
> top, and switch in the
> additional length to convert the vertical into an inverted L for
160, but
> the specifics of how best to do this are not clear to me. I imagine
a
> vacuum relay would be the best method, but where should it be
located, and
> so on.
>
> Rather than trying a number of possible things that might work (but
not
> very well), I am asking the experts on this list to provide the
best
> method, with specific instructions as to how to accomplish this, or
> provide
> a reasonable alternative method that would produce successful
results on
> 160.
>
> I can furnish my friend's email for direct contact with him.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your assistance.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred W2AAB
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 11:45:17 -0500
From: FRED BELGHAUS
To: Artek Manuals
Cc: Topband Reflector
Subject: Re: Topband: Need antenna help
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Many thanks, gents, for the responses.
The intended operation would include domestic and DX work, but not to
"set
the world on fire."
The op has a modest station, and I believe he will only be running in
the
100-200 Watt class.
The other intention is to use the 43 ft vertical on all bands from
160-10,
so that's why I thought
adding the horizontal wire and switching it in would be the solution.
But
I especially wish to
thank Joe, W4TV, for the 2 fine articles that I think provide the
best
practical solution.
My friend is a fairly new ham, so I can help him with building the
matching
network, even
supplying some of the parts.
Thank you all for your assistance. I will now send him the applicable
info.
73 and Best Wishes for the Holidays,
Fred W2AAB
On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:02 AM Artek Manuals
wrote:
> The first question to ask is what is the operating goal for 160.
>
> 1) Local net or rag chew with his buddies.? In that case use the
> existing vertical assuming the AATU can match it is enough . Might
have
> to a add lump loading coil at base to get it the point AATU can
deal
> with it . Generally this is a low impedance solution and likely a
good
> open frame style relay with 10-20 amp contacts area will be fine
>
> 2) Casual worked all states and occasional EU DX especially from NE
USA
> . I worked a fair amount of DX years ago using only a 33ft
Butternut
> vertical and a KW which for all practical purposes is a simple base
> loaded vertical
>
> 3) Is high power involved or is this a barefoot operation?
>
> 4) If he really wants to be heard ( and be able to switch the
neighbors
> touch lamps on and off at 25 wpm ..chuckle) then switched in top
loading
> wires and 1500W amp is the reality. OR move to the county and put
up
> some real antennas.
>
> Dave
>
> NR1DX
>
> On 12/7/2021 10:29 AM, FRED BELGHAUS wrote:
> > Gentlemen:
> >
> > I am trying to assist a friend from my local radio club in his
efforts to
> > get his station on 160. He has a 43 foot vertical with 60 ground
mounted
> > radials, and an AATU at the base. He sends DC on the coax to
operate the
> > AATU.
> >
> > I would think that it might be possible to add a horizontal wire
at the
> > top, and switch in the
> > additional length to convert the vertical into an inverted L for
160, but
> > the specifics of how best to do this are not clear to me. I
imagine a
> > vacuum relay would be the best method, but where should it be
located,
> and
> > so on.
> >
> > Rather than trying a number of possible things that might work
(but not
> > very well), I am asking the experts on this list to provide the
best
> > method, with specific instructions as to how to accomplish this,
or
> > provide
> > a reasonable alternative method that would produce successful
results on
> > 160.
> >
> > I can furnish my friend's email for direct contact with him.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance for your assistance.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Fred W2AAB
> > _________________
> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [3] -
Topband
> > Reflector
>
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