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Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

To: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question
From: Adrian <vk4tux@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 14:22:02 +1000
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Interesting page on the subject here ;

https://ham.stackexchange.com/questions/3675/what-is-the-effect-of-using-different-number-of-radials-with-ground-plane-antenn


On 23/3/21 1:55 pm, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
A counterpoise is what we do when the full size of a double-ended antenna, dipole, OCF, etc is too large for us to build, maintain, etc. Very simply, we want to jam the energy from the shield of our coax into the counterpoise, and the energy from the center conductor into the radiating element, the vertical, T, inverted L, etc, the aerial wire. Then we want to get all that energy back from the counterpoise, none lost if possible, at the phase reversal. Any you don't get back is mostly outright loss. With commercial high grade radials you can show that the effective series resistance of the counterpoise is 1/2, 1/3 or sometimes even 1/10 of an ohm. That means that the aerial wire is radiating something like 50, 100 times the energy lost/radiated by the radials' connection to ground.

The two current destinations taken together MIMIC a circuit, because the current into the counterpoise is the same, but opposite polarity as the current into the radiating part of the antenna. If the currents are equal and opposite, it looks like a circuit, walks like a circuit, quacks like a circuit. You can model it with a fake circuit, and use Maxwell's equations for circuits to predict what is gonna happen. There is no magic circulation, just the ability to convince the coax it is hooked up to a circuit. With the massive parallelism of a commercial grade radial field, the radial's electrons are coupled into the ground as a reservoir, with the push back from extra or missing electrons that will return the current when the phase reverses. The more radials, the more even the radials, the longer the radials, the lower the power lost to current through resistive materials, lost to dielectric loss in dielectric materials, lost to resistance in the wire. Not perfect return, but a nice, high percentage return.

In free space, it is possible to construct a counterpoise that NEC4 can accurately predict will radiate power to the far field at a rate 30 dB below the RF current's energy. The essential loss is in the RF resistance of the wire. You are talking about a counterpoise that is 98 or 99+ percent efficient in free space.

We are not interested in a counterpoise radiating, or invoking loss in the environment. Talking to the counterpoise, I'm telling it I'm giving it this pile of energy. A half cycle from now I want it all back. No skimming off the top. Maybe just a skoch.

A commercial quality radial field beneath a vertical is deliberately intended to be non-radiating. Looking at the current around the base of the vertical, the current to the east is exactly the opposite of the current to the west, as are to the north and south, as are all opposite radial pairs, therefore the fields generated are opposite, intended to be net zero in the far field. That's on purpose, pretty much true, and exactly what the engineers had in mind.

It is easy to show that there are unfortunate ham designs and implementations of the counterpoise/aerial concept where not even 10 percent of the power is radiated skyward. That is the 160 meter two ton elephant in the room that gets ignored an awful lot of the time.

73, Guy K2AV

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