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Re: Topband: K9AY Loop Question

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Subject: Re: Topband: K9AY Loop Question
From: Mark - N5OT <r-emails@n5ot.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 09:34:04 -0600
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Hi Pete, I have a PILE of experience with K9AY loops, but I don't use them in the usual "one-support-two-loops-four-directions" configuration.  Mine are all individual loops on individual supports dedicated into arrays in various directions.

The first thing I would check is to make sure you have continuity through the torroid inductors/transformers.  I have had loops work only sort-of when it turns out one of the teeny wires opened up. So it ... "kind-of" worked.  Like I could hear some signals, but the loop just wasn't behaving like it was really supposed to.

Another thing you might check is to see that the termination resistor in the box is not somehow broken / open / shorted / something.  The other things you describe, shape of the loop, sloping ground, etc, seem to not matter in my experience.

Mark


On 1/14/2021 8:23 PM, N4ZR wrote:
I'm in the process of putting up a K9AY loop, using the Array Solutions/Wolf RF control boxes.  I had the antenna up last year but it didn't seem to work very well, and I'm looking for suggestions.  A couple of areas for which I've found no answers:

How important is the geometry of the loops?  Illustrations I've seen seem to imply that the lower legs should slope upward somewhat to the corners, but without dimensions other than the total length of the loops.

The ground around the antenna slopes slightly toward one side - should I attempt to get the corners in the same plane, or the same distance above ground?

The relay box is mounted on the central fiberglass pole is approximately 2 feet above ground.  Is this dimension important? The relay box is grounded to a ground rod very close by.  Last year I experimented with also laying a couple of radials on the ground under the loops.  I read that suggested somewhere, but don't know if it's a good or bad idea.



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