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Subject: Re: Topband: 160
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 12:44:37 -0600
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Shutting down?

I just don't think continual bashing of people enjoying the hobby is good for the hobby.  Cheaters will be dealt with.

What could this "discussion" on this list possible solve?

Sorry you don't like FT-X.  Many don't like CW and SSB but they are not on here bashing other hams enjoying the hobby.  Lets raise the bar a bit.  I thought this was the gentleman's band.  If Topband is now lets continue to criticize and accuse and bash, then by all means continue on.



On 8/2/2019 12:00 PM, Doug Renwick wrote:
So you would like to shut down all discussion because the 'science is
settled'. Good factual discussion is important, but you see it as not
getting along. I disagree.

Doug

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

-----Original Message-----

Cheating is cheating.  How many people used remote stations, exceeded
their power limits, etc.   Singling out a mode because you are upset
that it has taken away activity in your  preferred mode is not helpful
to the hobby.    Not everyone that use FT8 cheats.  Not everyone that
uses a amp that exceeds their legal limit uses it in that fashion.

How can you guarantee that everyone on the "Honor Role" was 100 percent
honorable or even anyone that got DXCC did it right?  You can't so
please stop singling out a mode you don't care for.  We get it.  Move
on.  It is here.  Just like the Reverse beacon, packet cluster, etc.

We are all hams enjoying many aspects of the hobby.  Can't we get along?

W0MU

On 8/2/2019 3:03 AM, Ross Johnson wrote:
To Carl , my computer is not cleaver enough to work 60 countries FT8
on its own.
I have to check grey line, put many hours in on band, check
DXpeditions  ETC
Don’t forget hardware and radio gear.

To Nick and George. K1JT has put out a list identifying call signs
they believe  are using automated stations, you cant tell me others
have not cheated. There was callsigns mentioned on these pages recently.

To problem solver Kevin K3OX ,you  have helped some here by pointing
out Mix DXCC is not CW  DXCC or SSB DXCC

Well done

73  Ross   ZL3RJ
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