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Re: Topband: 4sq vs SAL 30 Mkii in a forest

To: "'Mike Fischer'" <mikebfischer@comcast.net>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: 4sq vs SAL 30 Mkii in a forest
From: "John Kaufmann" <john.kaufmann@verizon.net>
Reply-to: jkaufmann@alum.mit.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 19:01:25 -0500
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
I have an 8-circle array in the woods.  The tallest trees in my area are about 
60-70 feet, so your trees might be larger and denser than mine.   However, my 
system works very well, judging by the fact that its pattern seems to match 
very closely the theoretical pattern for this array.  In other words, I 
seriously doubt that the trees are detuning or degrading my array in any 
significant way.  Some people believe that trees and foliage introduce 
attenuation, even on 160 meters, but as long as the attenuation is the same for 
every element in the array, it is of no consequence because these short 
verticals are already very inefficient.  I do try to keep the verticals a few 
feet clear of big trees and foliage, and periodically I trim away foliage that 
grows in around them.  

73, John W1FV

-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fischer
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 2:56 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: 4sq vs SAL 30 Mkii in a forest

Hi all, newb to the topband 160 reflector here so thank you for any coaching or 
corrections on protocol…

I live on a heavily forested (douglas firs - almost all of which are 100’+) 
piece of land. 

I have enough room left to put up either an SAL 30 or a  4sq of 20’ verts with 
80’ spacing. HiZ probably

Problem is regardless of which I choose, there will be at least one or two 
trees in the “infield“ and foliage around the edges.

Any experience with the same or  thoughts? Grateful for the coaching please 
feel free to reply direct to  mikebfischer@comcast.net  

73
K7XH

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