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Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters

To: w5zn@w5zn.org, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
From: k1zm--- via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "k1zm@aol.com" <k1zm@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 00:19:23 +0000 (UTC)
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Joel
Quite a few 160m friends have sent emails to Sharon Tarantula - and she has 
replied to each of us - saying the matter will be investigated.
Thanks for your support of this matter.
73 JEFF
In a message dated 11/19/2018 11:24:08 PM Coordinated Universal Time, 
w5zn@w5zn.org writes:

I haven't really followed the 160 meter DXCC card checking process 
closely since I retired from ARRL elected volunteer service almost 10 
years ago and after my good friend Dave NN1N departed I lost any real 
inquiry opportunity other than a "regular" member would have ":-))" so I 
have no clue what the current procedure is for a DXCC Field Checker to 
validate 160 meter DXCC cards.

Regardless, as Jeff ZM urges, drop a note to the DXCC desk at HQ and 
also maybe your ARRL Director (please don't bug a Director in another 
Division, bug yours!). I would expect it to be investigated if enough 
folks raise the issue.

73 Joel W5ZN


On 2018-11-17 08:08, Bill Tippett wrote:
>>> "There have been no uploads for OK1YQ therefore it all has to be 
>>> cards. 73
> 
> Clive GM3POI"
> 
> 
> Thanks Clive.  I was under the mistaken impression that ARRL had closed
> 
> the previous loopholes in their paper card process but that is clearly 
> not
> 
> the case.  This (paper cheating on 160 cards) has been going on since 
> at
> 
> least the late 1980s, so I thought the process would have been 
> corrected
> 
> by now.  Something as simple as "IF 160 total is in the Top X, 
> crosscheck
> 
> with someone knowledgeable about 160" (even a past or current ARRL 
> President
> 
> would do...LOL).  I don't know what the qualifications are for "160 
> certified"
> 
> log checkers but this may need to be reviewed.
> 
> 
> I was also not intending to cast any aspersions about the integrity of
> 
> LOTW, but as we've seen in the news the past few years, ANYTHING 
> connected
> 
> to the Internet is subject to hacks.  I'm sure ARRL will be 
> investigating
> 
> everything in their validation process.  They are our last and best 
> hope
> 
> for maintaining the integrity of DXCC (notwithstanding remote country
> 
> cheating, which is another topic).
> 
> 
> 73,  Bill  W4ZV
> 
> 
> P.S  I know of at least 6 folks who have been disqualified for 160 
> cheating,
> 
> so yes, ARRL does care about this.
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