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Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 191, Issue 16

To: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 191, Issue 16
From: rick darwicki via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "n6pe@yahoo.com" <n6pe@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:14:07 +0000 (UTC)
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The ARRL will probably start a new award, Worked All OK1RD Calls 

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe
      (donovanf@starpower.net)
  2. ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (uy0zg)
  3. Re: Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe (lee@k7tjr.com)
  4. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (n4is@n4is.com)
  5. 160 QSL cards (Mark K?KX)
  6. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (w5zn@w5zn.org)
  7. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (donovanf@starpower.net)
  8. 160m conditions tonight (Paul Mclaren)
  9. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (WW3S)
  10. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (Tony Osman)
  11. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (Bob W4DR)
  12. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (Tom Haavisto)
  13. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (Paul Kiesel)
  14. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (k1zm@aol.com)
  15. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (Jean-Paul Albert)
  16. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (uy0zg)
  17. Vertical and horizontal polarised antennas in the same space
      (was Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe) (Steve Ireland)
  18. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (Clive GM3POI)
  19. Re: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters (Peter Sundberg)
  20. Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!
      (k1zm@aol.com)
  21. Re: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD)
      Legitimacy???!!! (k1zm@aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:03:16 -0500 (EST)
From: donovanf@starpower.net
To: Topband reflector <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe
Message-ID:
    <1369376455.30753947.1542387796071.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Corollary: You can't have too many antennas except when they 
interfere with each other which they often do on Topband where 
a wavelength is approximately 500 feet... 


Even on 20 meters, the pattern of a Yagi is noticeably degraded 
when it points through another 20 meter Yagi or tribander 500 feet 
distant or more. 


Fortunately most Topband receiving antennas don't interfere with 
each other -- except at extremely close spacing -- because their 
mutual impedance is negligible. But transmitting antennas and 
other antenna-like radiators such as power lines -- even 1000 feet 
away or more -- can significantly degrade the directivity of 
Topband receiving antennas. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Olean" <k1whs@metrocast.net> 
To: "Dennis Egan" <egan.dennis88@gmail.com>, "Steve Ireland" 
<vk6vz@arach.net.au> 
Cc: "Topband reflector" <topband@contesting.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 4:50:42 PM 
Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe 

Hi Steve 

I missed my sunset as I had a doctor's appt. I had a bad case of Lyme 
Disease in 2017, and am still taking meds. The doctor was thrilled with 
my recent bloodwork and figures that I have an almost clean slate. I am 
feeling great for the first time since 2016! The bad news was the 
appointment was right at sunset so no listening for LP. I am 
contemplating a low wire antenna. I just need to find a good spot away 
from all the beverages. You can't have too many antennas. 

Dave K1WHS 


On 11/16/2018 2:56 AM, Dennis Egan wrote: 
> Steve 
> 
> I did hear you but you couldn?t hear me. Big European pileup on you. 
> 
> Dennis W1UE 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2018, at 20:31, Steve Ireland <vk6vz@arach.net.au> wrote: 
>> 
>> G?day 
>> 
>> Although there was no LP prop into NA today, I had the best European 
>> propagation since 1 November, working 12 Europeans. 
>> 
>> The prop was very much spotlight, favouring Italy, Serbia, Hungary and 
>> Greece (SV1EOG/7 was a genuine 589), but I did work R8, OH and SM as well. 
>> 
>> Let?s hope 160m can surprise us in the next few days. 
>> 
>> Vy 73 
>> 
>> Steve, VK6VZ 
>> 
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 20:40:56 +0200
From: uy0zg <uy0zg@mksat.net>
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <eef5cface2ff9886babb6a439d725079@mksat.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed



ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....

Who is it ??

http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-12,848
-- 
Nick, UY0ZG


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:44:34 -0800
From: <lee@k7tjr.com>
To: "Topband reflector" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe
Message-ID: <000101d47ddc$6bf60770$43e21650$@k7tjr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"

    Well said Frank,
  When I was first experimenting with the Hi-Z all active 8 element array 
through modelling I placed a simple 125 foot vertical in the model and found 
serious interaction at 800 feet separation and some pattern perturbation at 
1000 feet. However, we routinely can recommend nesting a 160 meter and 80 meter 
version of 8 element high impedance receiving arrays (200 and 100 foot 
diameter) as we have also not seen serious mutual impedance affects. RDF or 
directivity with any close physically long pseudo element like power wires or 
resonant element comes with a price on top band for sure. My conclusion at that 
time was that a single antenna with greater than 13.5 dB RDF was not likely to 
work at most ham radio sites due to interaction with something. However, 
phasing two lesser-compromised high RDF antennas is working well providing 
modelled and anecdotally observed RDF of 15 dB (Where is the government budget 
when we need it).  Fortunately even with some pattern or RDF compromising inter
 ference a good receiving antenna remains much better than most simple 
transmitting antennas for low noise receiving.
Lee  K7TJR  OR


Corollary: You can't have too many antennas except when they interfere with 
each other which they often do on Topband where a wavelength is approximately 
500 feet... 


Even on 20 meters, the pattern of a Yagi is noticeably degraded when it points 
through another 20 meter Yagi or tribander 500 feet distant or more. 


Fortunately most Topband receiving antennas don't interfere with each other -- 
except at extremely close spacing -- because their mutual impedance is 
negligible. But transmitting antennas and other antenna-like radiators such as 
power lines -- even 1000 feet away or more -- can significantly degrade the 
directivity of Topband receiving antennas. 


73
Frank
W3LPL 




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 15:32:37 -0500
From: <n4is@n4is.com>
To: "'topband'" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <000a01d47deb$83d49280$8b7db780$@n4is.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME

ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ

http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf

73's JC
N4IS

-----Original Message-----
From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters



ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....

Who is it ??

http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
uto,-12,848
-- 
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 16:06:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark K?KX <k0kx@mchsi.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: 160 QSL cards
Message-ID:
    <2046733129.802409410.1542402368338.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi gang,

Maybe someone on this planet might know a way for me to receive two QSL cards 
as both would be new confirmed countries on 160.
I'm over 20 years late for me to be requesting these cards.

JW5NM worked in 1997 tuff one as he is SK
KH8AL worked in 1996

I have tried a few roads and so far both were dead ends.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

73, Mark ?K0KX


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 16:28:03 -0700
From: w5zn@w5zn.org
To: 'topband' <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <edb1b9ba3cc1ec998bca03d9d1eb5f30@w5zn.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

Hi J.C.,

I have not worked this station on 160 meters or on 2 meter EME (or on 
any band).

73 Joel W5ZN


On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
> 
> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
> 
> 73's JC
> N4IS
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: Topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
> 
> 
> 
> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
> 
> Who is it ??
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
> uto,-12,848


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:06:59 -0500 (EST)
From: donovanf@starpower.net
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID:
    <1716295225.31517107.1542413219217.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


JC, 


I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO 
with OK1YQ 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 


On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote: 
> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME 
> 
> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ 
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf 
> 
> 73's JC 
> N4IS 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg 
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM 
> To: Topband@contesting.com 
> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters 
> 
> 
> 
> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ ..... 
> 
> Who is it ?? 
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a 
> uto,-12,848 
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:14:46 +0000
From: Paul Mclaren <paul.mcl@gmail.com>
To: Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: 160m conditions tonight
Message-ID: <5bef5d76.1c69fb81.dc55.9cc3@mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Nice conditions tonight here in central Scotland on CW.  Plenty of local EU 
plus worked 11 NA stations this evening plus a VU as well.    Furthest over 
being Iowa which is good for me and my furthest over the States on top band.

I am sure stations with better TX and RX than my below average station will be 
filling their logs.  Also plenty of FT8 JA on the cluster earlier on working 
into northern EU.

Regards

Paul MM0ZBH



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:15:07 -0500
From: WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <0F7C8836-BA01-4705-AB77-EFC73377E4E4@zoominternet.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii

Call sign not found in qrz.....maybe a silent key?

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 16, 2018, at 6:28 PM, w5zn@w5zn.org wrote:
> 
> Hi J.C.,
> 
> I have not worked this station on 160 meters or on 2 meter EME (or on any 
> band).
> 
> 73 Joel W5ZN
> 
> 
>> On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
>> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>> 73's JC
>> N4IS
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
>> To: Topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>> Who is it ??
>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>> uto,-12,848
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:22:18 -0500
From: Tony Osman <tonyosman2014@gmail.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <28ae5e18-dce0-cad8-dce7-72ba7338f0b5@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

He doesn't appear in the Czech call book on ng3k.com (but not all calls 
are listed there).

Tony
ve3rz


On 11/16/2018 7:15 PM, WW3S wrote:
> Call sign not found in qrz.....maybe a silent key?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 6:28 PM, w5zn@w5zn.org wrote:
>>
>> Hi J.C.,
>>
>> I have not worked this station on 160 meters or on 2 meter EME (or on any 
>> band).
>>
>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>
>>
>>> On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
>>> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>>> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>>> 73's JC
>>> N4IS
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
>>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
>>> To: Topband@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>>> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>>> Who is it ??
>>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>>> uto,-12,848
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:32:53 -0500
From: "Bob W4DR" <w4dr@mindspring.com>
To: <donovanf@starpower.net>,    "topband" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <D8EE25735D2C419D9A2262106557562A@JREshlemanPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
    reply-type=original

OK1YQ is actually OK1RD

-----Original Message----- 
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters


JC,


I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO 
with OK1YQ


73
Frank
W3LPL


On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>
> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>
> 73's JC
> N4IS
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: Topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>
>
>
> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>
> Who is it ??
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
> uto,-12,848
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:58:59 -0500
From: Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
To: w4dr@mindspring.com
Cc: Frank Donovan <donovanf@starpower.net>,    TopBand List
    <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID:
    <CAKNnRU4eMBMwG4QOGyPkvV-K=v_92wBZPr+o-xPfAXUTktaAhw@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Neither of those calls show up in my log on any band.

Tom - VE3CX


On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:33 PM Bob W4DR <w4dr@mindspring.com> wrote:

> OK1YQ is actually OK1RD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: donovanf@starpower.net
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
> To: topband
> Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>
>
> JC,
>
>
> I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single
> QSO
> with OK1YQ
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
>
> On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
> > I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
> >
> > ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
> >
> > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
> >
> > 73's JC
> > N4IS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
> > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
> > To: Topband@contesting.com
> > Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
> >
> >
> >
> > ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
> >
> > Who is it ??
> >
> >
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
> > uto,-12,848
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 01:01:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: Paul Kiesel <k7cw@yahoo.com>
To: <w4dr@mindspring.com>, Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
Cc: TopBand List <topband@contesting.com>,     Frank Donovan
    <donovanf@starpower.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <1044099683.2229877.1542416507610@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

OK1RD is active on 6m EME. 

Paul, K7CW
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 11/16/18, Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
 To: w4dr@mindspring.com
 Cc: "TopBand List" <topband@contesting.com>, "Frank Donovan" 
<donovanf@starpower.net>
 Date: Friday, November 16, 2018, 4:58 PM
 
 Neither of those calls show up in
 my log on any band.
 
 Tom -
 VE3CX
 
 
 On
 Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:33 PM Bob W4DR <w4dr@mindspring.com>
 wrote:
 
 > OK1YQ is
 actually OK1RD
 >
 >
 -----Original Message-----
 > From: donovanf@starpower.net
 > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
 > To: topband
 > Subject:
 Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
 >
 >
 > JC,
 >
 >
 >
 I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not
 even a single
 > QSO
 >
 with OK1YQ
 >
 >
 > 73
 > Frank
 > W3LPL
 >
 >
 > On 2018-11-16 13:32,
 n4is@n4is.com
 wrote:
 > > I never heard him on any
 band but he must be very active on EME
 >
 >
 > > ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151
 OK1YQ
 > >
 > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
 > >
 > > 73's
 JC
 > > N4IS
 >
 >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com>
 On Behalf Of uy0zg
 > > Sent: Friday,
 November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
 > > To: Topband@contesting.com
 > > Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160
 Meters
 > >
 >
 >
 > >
 > >
 ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
 >
 >
 > > Who is it ??
 > >
 > >
 > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
 > > uto,-12,848
 >
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 08:15:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k1zm@aol.com" <k1zm@aol.com>
To: w4dr@mindspring.com, donovanf@starpower.net,
    topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <2094677551.2349335.1542442556301@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

hmmmmm
Why would anyone with a LEGITIMATE 339 DXCC entities made on 160m made as 
licensed station OK1RD submit a DXCC total as CALLSIGN OK1YQ?
That's kind of wacky.....isn't it?? If it is legit - then congrats!
73 JEFF? ?K1ZM
In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:33:17 AM Coordinated Universal Time, 
w4dr@mindspring.com writes:

OK1YQ is actually OK1RD

-----Original Message----- 
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters


JC,


I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO 
with OK1YQ


73
Frank
W3LPL


On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>
> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>
> 73's JC
> N4IS
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: Topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>
>
>
> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>
> Who is it ??
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
> uto,-12,848
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 09:32:44 +0100
From: Jean-Paul Albert <f6fya@yahoo.com>
To: donovanf@starpower.net
Cc: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <5077C60A-CB50-4ACB-BB10-714253B68D61@yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8

Anywhere, nothing about this station. 
Wrong call ?

Jean-Paul F6FYA/TM4Q

Envoy? de mon iPad

> Le 17 nov. 2018 ? 01:06, donovanf@starpower.net a ?crit :
> 
> 
> JC, 
> 
> 
> I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO 
> with OK1YQ 
> 
> 
> 73 
> Frank 
> W3LPL 
> 
> 
>> On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote: 
>> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME 
>> 
>> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ 
>> 
>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf 
>> 
>> 73's JC 
>> N4IS 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg 
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM 
>> To: Topband@contesting.com 
>> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ ..... 
>> 
>> Who is it ?? 
>> 
>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a 
>> uto,-12,848 
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:46:31 +0200
From: uy0zg <uy0zg@mksat.net>
To: k1zm@aol.com
Cc: w4dr@mindspring.com, donovanf@starpower.net,
    topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <3d2b230602b7470693a1c328e570e370@mksat.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed


Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...?



http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a%20%20uto,-12,848


Nick, UY0ZG


k1zm--- via Topband ????? 2018-11-17 10:15:
> hmmmmm
> Why would anyone with a LEGITIMATE 339 DXCC entities made on 160m made
> as licensed station OK1RD submit a DXCC total as CALLSIGN OK1YQ?
> That's kind of wacky.....isn't it?? If it is legit - then congrats!
> 73 JEFF? ?K1ZM
> In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:33:17 AM Coordinated Universal Time,
> w4dr@mindspring.com writes:
> 
> OK1YQ is actually OK1RD
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: donovanf@starpower.net
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
> To: topband
> Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
> 
> 
> JC,
> 
> 
> I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a 
> single QSO
> with OK1YQ
> 
> 
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
> 
> 
> On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
>> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>> 
>> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>> 
>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>> 
>> 73's JC
>> N4IS
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
>> To: Topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>> 
>> Who is it ??
>> 
>> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>> uto,-12,848

-- 
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 17:23:55 +0800
From: "Steve Ireland" <vk6vz@arach.net.au>
To: <donovanf@starpower.net>,    "Topband reflector"
    <topband@contesting.com>
Cc: "Dave Olean" <k1whs@metrocast.net>
Subject: Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarised antennas in the
    same space (was Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe)
Message-ID: <20681FC8D5754A49ABC72E86F2F39A9B@StevesHPpcPC>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8"

G?day

One way to get around the problem Frank W3LPL outlines below is to have one 
general/TX 160m antenna that you switch between vertical and horizontal 
polarisation.

If you can get up an inverted-V or flat-top dipole at 60 to 120 feet and feed 
it with open wire that runs away from the antenna feedpoint vertically, the 
feeders can be switched at ground level (using a double pole vacuum relay or 
similar) so they are shorted and fed against a counterpoise/ground system, with 
a separate coax feeder/matching unit.

For many years an east coast VK friend used this system, where he had a 
?shallow? inverted vee 160m doublet about 90 feet high and took the open wire 
feed to ground. The inverted vee made a great capacity hat to the shorted open 
wire feeder/vertical radiator and I think he used to tune this against his 
ground system using an L-network or a series capacitor

I also recall KK4TR ? and several others ? successfully using similar antennas. 

Vy 73

Steve, VK6VZ  

---------------
Corollary:  You can't have too many antennas except when they 
interfere with each other which they often do on Topband where
a wavelength is approximately 500 feet...


Even on 20 meters, the pattern of a Yagi is noticeably degraded
when it points through another 20 meter Yagi or tribander 500 feet
distant or more.


Fortunately most Topband receiving antennas don't interfere with
each other -- except at extremely close spacing -- because their
mutual impedance is negligible.  But transmitting antennas and
other antenna-like radiators such as power lines -- even 1000 feet
away or more -- can significantly degrade the directivity of
Topband receiving antennas.


73
Frank
W3LPL




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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:04:33 -0000
From: "Clive GM3POI" <clive@gm3poi.com>
To: <k1zm@aol.com>,    <w4dr@mindspring.com>,    <donovanf@starpower.net>
Cc: <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <000301d47e5c$f0caf1b0$d260d510$@gm3poi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"

Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either.  73 Clive GM3POI

-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of k1zm--- via 
Topband
Sent: 17 November 2018 08:16
To: w4dr@mindspring.com; donovanf@starpower.net; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters

hmmmmm
Why would anyone with a LEGITIMATE 339 DXCC entities made on 160m made as 
licensed station OK1RD submit a DXCC total as CALLSIGN OK1YQ?
That's kind of wacky.....isn't it?  If it is legit - then congrats!
73 JEFF  K1ZM
In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:33:17 AM Coordinated Universal Time, 
w4dr@mindspring.com writes:

OK1YQ is actually OK1RD

-----Original Message----- 
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters


JC,


I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO 
with OK1YQ


73
Frank
W3LPL


On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>
> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>
> 73's JC
> N4IS
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: Topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>
>
>
> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>
> Who is it ??
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
> uto,-12,848
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:06:32 +0000
From: Peter Sundberg <sm2cew@telia.com>
To: Bob W4DR <w4dr@mindspring.com>,<donovanf@starpower.net>,    "topband"
    <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Message-ID: <mailman.3643.1542451663.7769.topband@contesting.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

If  OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read:

http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html

https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0

73
Peter SM2CEW


At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote:
>OK1YQ is actually OK1RD
>
>-----Original Message----- From: donovanf@starpower.net
>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
>To: topband
>Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>
>
>JC,
>
>
>I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a 
>single QSO with OK1YQ
>
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>
>
>On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
>>I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>>
>>ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>>
>>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>>
>>73's JC
>>N4IS
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Topband 
>><topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
>>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
>>To: Topband@contesting.com
>>Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>>
>>
>>
>>ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>>
>>Who is it ??
>>
>>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>>uto,-12,848
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:42:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k1zm@aol.com" <k1zm@aol.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD)
    Legitimacy???!!!
Message-ID: <1978670171.2383422.1542451352784@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8




From: k1zm@aol.com
To: sm2cew@telia.com
Cc: dxcc@arrl.org
Sent: 11/17/2018 10:33:41 AM Coordinated Universal Time
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!

Hmmm again
Okay - now I remember this guy and his shenanigans from way back.? OK1RD (now 
masquerading as OK1YQ - which is a callsign that does not appear on qrz.com!)
Guys - I would recommend that any of us that are really interested send an 
email to the ARRL DXCC desk and ask that this 160m DXCC OK1YQ listing be taken 
down - and that this fellow be prohibited from participating in the DXCC 
program going forward.
This is ridiculous and I agree - who is now running the DXCC desk?? Sure wish 
NN1N and some of the older, wiser DXCC managers were still around to police 
this kind of activity!
What utter nonsense!
73 JEFF VY2ZM


In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:07:05 AM Coordinated Universal Time, 
sm2cew@telia.com writes:

If? OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read:

http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html

https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0

73
Peter SM2CEW


At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote:
>OK1YQ is actually OK1RD
>
>-----Original Message----- From: donovanf@starpower.net
>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
>To: topband
>Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>
>
>JC,
>
>
>I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a 
>single QSO with OK1YQ
>
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>
>
>On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
>>I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>>
>>ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>>
>>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>>
>>73's JC
>>N4IS
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Topband 
>><topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
>>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
>>To: Topband@contesting.com
>>Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>>
>>
>>
>>ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>>
>>Who is it ??
>>
>>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
>>uto,-12,848
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:47:40 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k1zm@aol.com" <k1zm@aol.com>
To: lennart.michaelsson@telia.com, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD)
    Legitimacy???!!!
Message-ID: <949451380.2368582.1542451660687@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

FYI
There is a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS for the ARRL DXCC DESK - it is DXCCAdmin@arrl.org

Pls send your comments to this email address for investigation and possible 
action!
Thanks!
73 JEFF? ?Vy2ZM
In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:45:27 AM Coordinated Universal Time, 
lennart.michaelsson@telia.com writes:

Good idea Jeff! Thanks Peter for digging in this mudd!
73
Len/BIC

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr?n: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> F?r k1zm--- via Topband
Skickat: den 17 november 2018 11:43
Till: topband@contesting.com
?mne: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!




From: k1zm@aol.com
To: sm2cew@telia.com
Cc: dxcc@arrl.org
Sent: 11/17/2018 10:33:41 AM Coordinated Universal Time
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!

Hmmm again
Okay - now I remember this guy and his shenanigans from way back.? OK1RD (now 
masquerading as OK1YQ - which is a callsign that does not appear on qrz.com!) 
Guys - I would recommend that any of us that are really interested send an 
email to the ARRL DXCC desk and ask that this 160m DXCC OK1YQ listing be taken 
down - and that this fellow be prohibited from participating in the DXCC 
program going forward.
This is ridiculous and I agree - who is now running the DXCC desk?? Sure wish 
NN1N and some of the older, wiser DXCC managers were still around to police 
this kind of activity!
What utter nonsense!
73 JEFF VY2ZM


In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:07:05 AM Coordinated Universal Time, 
sm2cew@telia.com writes:

If? OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read:

http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html

https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0

73
Peter SM2CEW


At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote:
>OK1YQ is actually OK1RD
>
>-----Original Message----- From: donovanf@starpower.net
>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM
>To: topband
>Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>
>
>JC,
>
>
>I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a 
>single QSO with OK1YQ
>
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>
>
>On 2018-11-16 13:32, n4is@n4is.com wrote:
>>I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME
>>
>>ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ
>>
>>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf
>>
>>73's JC
>>N4IS
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Topband 
>><topband-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of uy0zg
>>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM
>>To: Topband@contesting.com
>>Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>>
>>
>>
>>ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ .....
>>
>>Who is it ??
>>
>>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1&;
>>zoom=a
>>uto,-12,848
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