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Re: Topband: Baker Island DXpedition on 160

To: "'GEORGE WALLNER'" <aa7jv@atlanticbb.net>, "'Rob Atkinson'" <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Baker Island DXpedition on 160
From: <lennart.michaelsson@telia.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:43:22 +0200
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Hi George,
With the oustanding signals you have been producing on top band I hope we
will be able to have a marginal but valid QSO even this time. I wish you and
the gang a fine trip
73
Len SM7BIC

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Från: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> För GEORGE WALLNER
Skickat: den 13 juni 2018 21:27
Till: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>; topband@contesting.com
Ämne: Re: Topband: Baker Island DXpedition on 160

Rob,
You are right about the timing not being good, but it is way too late now to
postpone the operation. Most of us are already in the Pacific or on a plane,
the boat is being loaded, etc., etc.
This is the time we could get and these are the limitations we must live
with. The circumstances at the FWS were conducive to issuing a permit this
year. There was no guarantee that those circumstances would remain the same
in the future. Please remember that, for Navassa we had to wait 18 years for
the official "stars to line up". Also, fewer sunspots are supposed to be
good for TB conditions.
As for antennas, of course taller would be better, but...we got the permit
by agreeing, not arguing.
We have a new 160 m antenna design that I have been testing from C6AGU. With
the help of a salt-water "ground" it will work OK. (NEC indicates a gain of
6 dBi.)
73 and CU,
George


On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:55:10 -0500
  Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com> wrote:
> I respectfully suggest the Baker Is. dxpedition be postponed for a few 
> years until band condx improve.  It makes no sense to me to mount this 
> costly undertaking to a limited access location when propagation is in
> the toilet.   If USFWS is managing access, they've lately shown that
> they'll only approve trips to islands under their custodianship every
> 10 years or so.  If this is the case with Baker Is., then this trip 
> will make another one in a few years impossible.
>
> Another point I'd like to make is that a later trip might afford a 
> chance to renegotiate what I consider a ridiculous antenna limit, 
> which seems to be based on a ridiculous antenna design, namely the "43
> foot all-band vertical."    Such a height with top loading might work
> okay on 80 meters but on 160 its efficiency will be poor.
>
> 73
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
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