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Re: Topband: Working dupes on a band

To: topband@contesting.com, Pete Rimmel N8PR <n8pr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: Working dupes on a band
From: JL PFIRMAN <w3to76@comcast.net>
Reply-to: JL PFIRMAN <w3to76@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 16:52:04 -0500 (EST)
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
My first post here,but read all the posts every day in fact look forward to it! 
My feelings exactly Pete and might I add ,there are still gentlemen on 
topband.This am at 1215z I was able to copy and have a good contact with HL5IVL 
for an ATNO on 160.
There were 3 or 4 others calling and Kim came back with W3T? after a few more 
times he copied my call correctly. I just wanted to thank those who stood by 
until I compleated my QSO,thanks again fellow 160 ops. PS it was a peak at my 
sunrise. Jim W3TO

> On February 1, 2018 at 1:16 PM Pete Rimmel N8PR <n8pr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with working the same station on the
> same band more than once. We used to do it all the time to assure we had
> "insurance" contacts with someone we needed for DXCC or other award. Online
> logs and ClubLog has limited that need to some extent, but not everyone has
> a near-real time log we can check.
>
> Now, with the advent of the CQ Magazine's Annual DX Marathon, There is no
> choice but to work the same stations EVERY year to achieve the CQ zone and
> Country totals for the year long Marathon.
>
> I always hesitate to work the tough ones in a big pile-up if I have them
> confirmed for DXCC, because I do not want to take the opportunity away from
> someone who needs them for a new band country.
>
> HOWEVER, I do try to work them eventually, usually when the propagation
> favors my QTH, so I can add them to my totals for the year.
>
> If stations cannot understand that, they should get with the program... They
> could be in demand by everyone every year ! That should be something to
> look forward to - being in demand !
>
> I know this is different than thinking in the past, but that is the reality
> of today ! I already have 60+ DXCC on 160 in January 2018 alone 8^)
>
> 73, PeteR N8PR
>
>
>
> From: rayn6vr <rayn6vr@gmail.com>
>
> In my mind, the station you are talking about is very inconsiderate and
> lacking poor judgement.
> It is a common thing to call and say hi to someone on TB when the condx are
> slow or poor propagation.?
> If I were to get such an email, I would never work thay stn on any band, any
> mode, contest or not!
> 73,Ray?N6VR?
> PS would like to know who it is so that I don't have the same experience.
>
> ...
>
> HI Roger,
>
> Thanks for the message, and interesting about the station you mention and
> his website saying "no dupes".? I was shocked when I was told not to work
> the European station again.? I just checked his clublog and in 6.5 years I
> had worked him a total of 3 times which to me does not sound too excessive
> for the topband.
>
> It's like these guys think they are on some rare dx-pedition or something.
> I just don't get it.
>
> I have received a few very nice e-mails from European stations since my
> posting this morning telling me to call them anytime I hear them (which is
> very nice).
>
> 73,
> Don
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Don
> >
> > I read your post with some interest and dismay as something similar
> > happened to me last November
> >
> > 160M Wasn?t producing anything at my SR so I dropped down to 80 CW.??? I
> > worked a few stations, one of which showed up as being worked a few years
> > earlier on 80 CW.???? At that time I was logged into the low band chat
> > room
> > and that same DX station was on and made a non-positive comment that he
> > had
> > ?two repeats? this morning.??? I checked his website and he clearly says
> > ?No Dupes?.
> >
> > A lot of times I do not have my PC up and running in the morning before
> > work;? if I make a contact I just enter it as memo on my phone and enter
> > it
> > into the actual log when I get back from work.?? Working these ?No Dupe?
> > guys really doesn?t worry me per se,? but if I?m trying to work them and
> > they decide not to respond as I?m a ?dupe?,? then it wastes my time to do
> > so.
> >
> >? Last night there were some nice EU sigs on TB and I worked several of
> > them (all ?repeats? but they didn?t seem to care).
> >
> > 73 Mark K3MSB
> >
> >
> >
>
> > I personally will come on tonight about 0000Z . . . usually for about an
> > hour . . . and then again about 0300Z, to see if there's stations further
> > west. (there seems no point in coming on at our Sunrise, around 0730, as
> > there is actually NO peak in signal these days)
> >
> > Roger G3YRO
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Mark K3MSB [mailto:mark.k3msb@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: Topband: 160m DX Activity Night
> >
> >
> > So what's the accepted practice of working stations again and again on
> > 160M?
> >
> >
> > If I've worked you once or twice in the past I won't answer your CQ,
> > unless
> > you're CQing with no responses, but then probably not. I've found in the
> > past that ops don't want repeat customers, they want fresh fish.
> >
> >
> > I've been doing other thingsin the shack and have heard EU stations CQing
> > and CQing on TB but I don't answer as they're in my log quite a few times.
> > Should I answer?
> >
> >
> > 73 Mark K3MSB
> >
> >
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