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Re: Topband: Shunt Feed help

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Subject: Re: Topband: Shunt Feed help
From: Brian Pease <bpease2@myfairpoint.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:47:48 -0400
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I have used NEC4 to model my short 50 ft tower for shunt feed on 160, 80, and 40 meters.  It has a small triband beam with all elements grounded.  The 160m shunt wire goes to the top, of course, and NEC gave a good estimate of the impedance.  On 80m, my first guess was pretty close to 50 Ohms.  It took 3 tries on 40m where I was 3-4 ft off.  I could extend the model to your height and lengthen my 3 elements to roughly simulate your beam & estimate the 160m shunt length. I assume that you have enough radials.

On 10/10/2017 8:22 AM, bob burton via Topband wrote:
  Looking for some shunt feed wisdom from the list. Trying to shunt feed 25G tower ( 8-10ft sticks, 8ft flat top, base 18" 
out of the ground = total tower 89.5 ft) has a F12 C31XR just above the thrust bearing (@90ft) with 6ft 2" mast above the 
tribander with a F12 D140 dipole (@96ft). Based on various archive reading I can't get a good sense of how much top loading I may 
have (some say only the boom, others say much more). That said I've first tried a cage wire ( four 14ga wires spaced 6" 
apart) all the way at the top of the tower spaced about 2ft out. Trying to dip this with an Autek RF-1 yielded about 1.15 Mhz 
which didn't seem right. Cage was taken down and tried just a single wire at a lower tap height of 60ft. Strangely enough I get 
about the same frequency but the Z dropped. Moving farther down to 50ft again about the same frequency but again Z dropped. I'm 
assuming the frequency readings are completely off and I'm getting overload from nearby AM broadcast as I am surrounded by them. 
I'm unsure now if I should continue trying tap points farther down the tower just looking for the best Z or use some 
other approach. If anyone has experience with how much top loading a C31XR could represent I could use the graphs in ON4UNs book 
to perhaps get close, but I'm unsure what the loading looks like and found no real answers searching the 
archives. Any help appreciated to help eliminate many more trips on the tower looking for the nearest 50 ohm 
spot. Tnx 73's Bob - N4PQX
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