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Re: Topband: strange propagation

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Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation
From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenbohm@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:02:18 -0400
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That's what lawyers get paid for as they can parse any rule as their billing clock is running. This is their profession and having their pro-client opinion is essentially meaningless. The ARRL, of asked, will advise it's members if the RHR issue is presented to them.


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I can't be 100% sure but I think this will all wash down to the fact that 
stations are no longer licensed and the control operator is fully responsible.  
And I do believe that is the case.  RHR has lawyers on retainer and I'm sure 
this has been legally looked at.  I can get the ruling they go by.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net>
To: 'Louis Parascondola' <gudguyham@aol.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 02:58 AM
Subject: RE: Topband: strange propagation



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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Correct, but if he doesn’t, its actually the primary responsibility of the control operator/station owner to shut down the station to prevent further illegal transmissions.</span></p><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ed  N1UR</span></p><p 
class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Louis Parascondola [<a href="mailto:gudguyham@aol.com?";>mailto:gudguyham@aol.com</a>]
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 15, 2016 1:53 AM
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sawyered@earthlink.net";>sawyered@earthlink.net</a>; <a 
href="mailto:topband@contesting.com";>topband@contesting.com</a>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Topband: strange propagation</span></p><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"> 
</p><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal">It is the same thing as if he was here physically, he must use his call with a / w2 or 
whatever.

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Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation


In the case discussed of a station remoting in and not properly identifying
(ie an Italian station remoting a USA station but continuing to use the
Italian callsign), it seems to me that the FCC would consider the station
owner the control operator and therefore responsible for the proper IDing of
transmissions made from their station.



I would think a few fines issued by the FCC to the remote station holder,
would shut these games down in a hurry. I wonder if the RHR station owners
that are being leased out by individuals realize their liability in these
circumstances. I think some people will be shocked with a certified letter
at some point and the game will quickly change.



Ed N1UR

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