Most of the gun hunters say that to the bow hunters.
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From: john <w8wej@citynet.net>
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation
really? to which I say,,,God bless you,,, Ill just turn the other
check for me this thread is over
73 john w8wej
On 1/14/2016 10:56 PM, Louis Parascondola via Topband wrote:
> Did you ever shoot an animal with a gun? Shooting an animal with a gun is
> like using RHR for ANTO. Shooting an animal with a bow and arrow is like
> using your station that may be just average. The ethics of the whole thing
> has already been settled by the ARRL so ethics don't have to be looked at.
>
> for years I was a very hard hunter of game,
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john <w8wej@citynet.net>
> To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 5:28 pm
> Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation
>
> you know,,,at 74 if I need something that bad,,, I need to re-evaluate
> my priorities,,, what ever I work will be from my home , or my farm,
> 32 miles away I am very fortunate to have both and a basic station
> station at both,, in person
> on site
> ,,, I understand folks in apartments etc,,, but for those folk who , in
> my opinion work stuff via what ever cost and remote coast to coast
> is just plain wrong-- arrl need to look at the entire ethics again. I
> know = dollars
> for years I was a very hard hunter of game,,, but I never took any thing
> that would not go to some one to eat.. In the total scheme of things
> trophies and certificates are just that ,,, nothing more , nothing less
> just saying
> as for me , Ill work what I can from home and at my farm,,, in person,
> on site,, -- again I am not slamming anyone from an apartment or place
> that they can not put up an antenna, who I do slam is the folks that
> will work em at any cost and who already have substantial stations
> dx is
> what I have written I have written
> done now 73 john w8wej
> On 1/14/2016 9:28 PM, Dave Blaschke, w5un wrote:
>> Look at the situation; There are just a few stateside RHR for rent
>> locations. As more and more "hams" begin to use these sites to work
>> DXpeditions, the queue length to access one of these sites will
>> become hopeless long. JUST A THOUGHT.
>>
>> Dave, W5UN
>>
>> On 1/14/2016 6:33 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
>>> I have lost my amateur station in three major hurricanes over the
>>> years here, everything including radios (from water) and antennas. I
>>> have also rebuilt them a four different locations until I finally
>>> scrapped enough money together and bought a home next to a large salt
>>> pond. I have full remote station here but it only functions for
>>> contest operated by a cliff dweller in NYC who cares not for DXCC
>>> credit. The problem with the US RHR deals is that it completely
>>> skews the process as far as the propagation differences across the
>>> fruited plan. I would love to add to my DXCC totals as I close into
>>> the 300 mark. USA stations can do this but is it ethical. It sure
>>> makes money for a pay to play amateur radio scheme. But is it the way
>>> you want low band Dx-ing to become? I hope not as you only will need
>>> a computer and an internet connection and everything else that used
>>> to a worthwhile effort is trashed.
>>>
>>> I remember a former 160 meter DX pioneer, Charles O'Brien who
>>> originally from Illinois used a 1/4 wave bent Marconi and 25 watts to
>>> work a G station. This is what we are or what we used to be. RHR I
>>> am afraid is the end of an era were perseverance and not vast amounts
>>> of QRO muscle and money decided who was on top. That is a shame and
>>> perhaps to some a disgrace as it really chances everything including
>>> the respect we have for those who did so much with so little.`
>>>
>>> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>>>
>>> On 1/14/2016 12:43 AM, Dave Blaschke, w5un wrote:
>>>> I will say this:
>>>> operating a remote station (for money) owned and managed by someone
>>>> else will never be as satisfying as operating your own station,
>>>> built by your hands. But than again, if you have no station, and are
>>>> unable to build one up, what's your choice? I built (and rebuilt) a
>>>> beautiful station and antenna system here over the past fifteen
>>>> years, only to see much of it destroyed by storms in recent years.
>>>> Now I am unable to rebuild anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Dave, W5UN
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/2016 2:26 AM, Carl Luetzelschwab wrote:
>>>>> Ed N1UR said "It seems non-trivial to me as to how to maintain
>>>>> these remote
>>>>> stations."
>>>>>
>>>>> My guess is it was someone using the Portland, OR station in the
>>>>> Remote Ham
>>>>> Radio network (http://www.remotehamradio.com/the-stations/). The
>>>>> stations
>>>>> are available for a price.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know whose actual station that is - but I'm sure it is
>>>>> someone's
>>>>> home station (just like all the others in the network).
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl K9LA
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