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Re: Topband: Strange propagation

To: k8bhz@alphacomm.net, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation
From: Louis Parascondola via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:30:38 -0500
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It didn't, it is still in play.  Profiting from Ham radio by using the air 
waves for business purposes is what is illegal.  For example If I use ham radio 
to dispatch taxi cabs or to call my employees that are on the road to send them 
to their next job, or to handle traffic between to people involved in business 
where the communications are commercial in nature.  This is what is illegal.  
To "rent" a station to another person to carry on normal LEGAL communications 
on the ham bands is perfectly legal.  Trust me I know, the RHR guys have been 
through this and the FCC is well aware and there is no issues.  Is selling a 
ham radio transceiver or amplifier or any such accessory to carry out radio 
communications illegal?  No.  SO why would culminating all this apparatus owned 
by one entity to be used by another ham for profit be illegal?

Remember back in the Golden Years when it was STRICTLY FORBIDDEN to profit 
from "amateur radio"????   When did that go away???




-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Mattson <k8bhz@alphacomm.net>
To: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation



-----Original Message----- 
From: Louis Parascondola via Topband
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:27 PM
To: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com ; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation

>SO they did the next best thing and left it up to the individual to decide 
>what is moral or ethical for them.  If someone gets DXCC honor roll using 
>that system, good for them but it >doesn't hold water to me. They work 
>really hard putting up towers on a regular basis not to mention maintaining 
>it all.  They make an honest living.

Remember back in the Golden Years when it was STRICTLY FORBIDDEN to profit 
from "amateur radio"????   When did that go away???

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation

On Thu,1/14/2016 10:33 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:

>The problem with the US RHR deals is that it completely skews the process
> as far as the propagation differences across the fruited plan.  I
> would love to add to my DXCC totals as I close into the 300 mark.  USA
> stations can do this but is it ethical.  It sure makes money for a pay
> to play amateur radio scheme.

Amen Herb!!

>I strongly agree -- while it is permitted by DXCC rules, it is NOT
>ETHICAL to use a remote station, or a different QTH of your own,
>thousands of miles closer to a DX entity to add to your country totals.

>And in reality, it IS pay to play -- nice stations cost money! There's
>the gear, the antennas, and the real estate.

Yes Jim, ALL of our stations  require those outlays, but we don't make money 
from them!

>73, Jim K9YC

Brian,  K8BHZ





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