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Topband: Additional Comments on Impact of Remote RX Systems

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Subject: Topband: Additional Comments on Impact of Remote RX Systems
From: John Crovelli <w2gd@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:07:47 -0400
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This has been a great discussion.....nearly 50 posts on the remote RX question 
this week....nice job everyone.....we even managed to keep it fairly  'civil'. 
I went back and read all of your posts a second time, and selected some of the 
observations and suggestions for this summary discussion which is solely 
contest oriented.    I am purposely avoiding any discussion of comments about 
concerns with DXCC rules, proliferation of full remote station operation 
(private or public), rule changes designed to change contest scoring systems, 
etc.  This is simply about how using remote RX solutions impact contest 
results. 
1.  There are many traditionalists among us who sum up their feelings about top 
band operation with this phrase:
 "160 Is Hard....And We Like It That Way" .
2.  Many feel there is a legitimate "price of entry" for success on top 
band.....there should be no free ride nor few plug and play solutions.   This 
concept takes different forms, whether it be securing property in a quiet RF 
location, designing and building bigger or more efficient antenna systems, etc. 
 Few hold the belief or have the expectation that there should be equality 
among 160 stations, either geographically or technically.   
3.  If you are or expect to be a serious competitor in the major 160 contests, 
you want those in your class of entry to abide by the letter and spirit of the 
rules as written. Shame on you for running excess power or for using remote 
receivers in EU, JA, SA or the USA.  
4.  Noise problems are an almost universal problem for top band operators, 
casual and serious alike, and this represents a rather significant hurdle for 
many in their quest to participate in 160 meter contesting.  Some station 
owners feel it is so important they go to extreme lengths to "borrow' or 
purchase a quiet location...often at significant personal expense.  Some 
concentrate on building the best TX and  RX antennas possible within their 
location's space limitations.  Some work diligently with power companies and 
neighbors to reduce the noise floor. And so far a relative few 160 operators 
use internet enabled solutions (such as remote RX systems) to make 160 meter 
operation minimally viable.  There are many paths that can be taken.
5.  There seems to be agreement among respondents that a valid CONTEST QSO 
occurs when the TX and RX antennas of the two stations involved are co-located 
within a 500 meter circle at each end of the circuit. 
6.  There is general agreement that remote station operation is acceptable in 
contesting as long as all TX and RX antennas of the remote station are 
co-located at the same remote station location, and all applicable government 
regulations are followed by the owners and operators.
7.  There is general agreement that the use of HYBRID RX antenna systems, e.g. 
a mix of both  on-site and remote RX antenna systems, would significantly 
change the competitive environment under existing rules and entry classes, 
effectively creating an unfair advantage for entrants/stations that achieve 
effective full duplex operational capability (a technical achievement which is 
exceptionally difficult to accomplish on 160 meters at stations where RX and TX 
antennas are co-located).
8.  There are situations (particularly in urban areas) where the noise problem 
is so overwhelming that 160 meter operation at a meaningful competitive level 
is impossible.  Operators in this situation are seeking relief through the 
rules, specifically requesting permission to use remote RX systems connected to 
the TX location via the internet or other means.

Below are possible rule changes I would feel comfortable with since they 
maintain the current competitive environment, yet address special situations 
where remote RX would increase contest participation and enjoyment:
A.  Create NEW and SEPARATE entry classes for SO, SOA and multi-operator 
entrants who use remotely located RX systems for 160 meter contest operations.  
B.  Remote RX systems must be no more than 100 km from the TX antenna location. 
C.  HYBRID RX antenna systems are NOT PERMITTED (see #7 above).

Thanks again for your interest in this subject and your thoughtful comments.
Regards,
John, W2GD

                                          
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