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Re: Topband: K1N On Line Log

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Subject: Re: Topband: K1N On Line Log
From: Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
Reply-to: n2ic@arrl.net
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 07:15:43 -0700
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The only thing that was temporarily "lost" was the information on Clublog. That was done intentionally by the team to fix an issue with 10 MHz RTTY QSO's not being sent correctly to Clublog. The team cleared out Clublog, and then re-uploaded all of the QSO's to Clublog with the correct band/mode. There was never any danger of losing the actual log, which is being stored in multiple different formats and media on the island.

The overreaction here on Topband was unbelievable. Very sad for a bunch of folks I used to think had some intelligence.

73,
Steve, N2IC


On 02/07/2015 12:51 AM, Charlie Cunningham wrote:
By the way, Kevin it's one thing, if, as happened with K1N, that QSOs appeared in the log 
and then disappeared! - THAT's DATA-LOSS!  But an awful lot of guys were waiting 
anxiously to see if they had a "good" QSO that never appeared in the online 
logs!  That's another matter entirely, that depends on the operator. That's the one I had 
intended to address!

73,
Charlie, K4OTV

-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
kolson@rcn.com
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:36 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: K1N On Line Log


Charlie, I don't think many here  "didn't know" if they made a contact or not. The 
question was if  K1N had "lost" their QSO from the computer log. No matter how sure you 
are you made the contact, if it's not in their computer log, for whatever reason, it can't be 
confirmed.

Kevin K3OX


----- Original Message -----

From: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
To: "Eddy Swynar" <deswynar@xplornet.ca>, topband@contesting.com
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:46:02 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: K1N On Line Log

Well, we did survive just fine, Eddy and lots of folks mad the Honor Roll, 
5BDXCC etc..

All this nonsense about the online logs is just so much Bull!!!  Can all be 
avoided if folks would do the following:\

1.0        COPY your own call!!!  No guesswork, no fragments, no bluffing etc.

2.0         Copy your report

3.0        Reply with your call, followed by an  acknowledgement  of DX Station Report 
(TU or thanks) and Send report to DX station followed (or preceded) by "Thanks" 
or TU

4.0        LISTEN for the DX operator to acknowledge your report

5.0         Thanks or TU -or even dit-dit

Do those things completely and there won't be much guessing or wondering if you 
had a legitimate QSO that's logged!! We may have to have some patience and 
perseverance  to work through the jammers, and QRM and the packet-rats tuning 
up on the DX QRG!

It may be reassuring to see the online logs, but we should KNOW if we had a 
good contact or not!  WITHOUT  a computer to tell us we did!!

I KNEW that my 7 QSOs with K1N were there BEFORE the logs came out! And NO DUPES or 
"INSURANCE CONTACTS"!    Just my $0.02.

73,
Charlie, K4OTV

-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Eddy Swynar
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 3:17 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: K1N On Line Log

How did we EVER collectively survive the dark ages of hardcopy QSL cards, 
s.a.s.e.'s, QSL bureaus, DX news sheets, and I.R.C.s, I wonder...?

Is everyone that impatient while attempting to WORK a rare station, too...?

All this angst and trepidation being displayed here...! I thought DX'ing, Ham radio, 
& Topband were all supposed to be FUN, and not a hand-wringing exercise in anger 
& worry management...

~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
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