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Re: Topband: Foreign stns using NA remotes for K1N

To: "'Tod'" <tod@k0to.us>, <w5zn@w5zn.org>
Subject: Re: Topband: Foreign stns using NA remotes for K1N
From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 09:22:56 -0600
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And let me counter with another quote:

Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good
men do nothing.

Doug

-----Original Message-----

What difference does it make? Who cares if someone else, rich or not,
cheats? 
We should encourage them to work K1N as quickly as possible and then go
away.

I leave you with a Shakespeare quote, "It is a tale told by an idiot, full
of sound and fury, but signifying nothing".

Tod, K0TO

> On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Joel Harrison <w5zn@w5zn.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave - you are correct. That very statement was rather boldly made by a
> prominent 160 meter person right here. At the time I thought about
> throwing the flag on that one but decided, then, not to. I know the remote
> folks can track ISP addresses of those connected but do not know how they
> can verify a station outside the country where the remote is located is
> identifying correctly and lawfully.
> 
> So, I'll make a bold statement here....The remote folks don't care and
> will not control it as long as the $$$$ are flowing in. Money talks and
> the rules can go to hell.
> 
> Am I wrong?? Then prove me wrong and let's see some hammering down on this
> by the remote folks.
> 
> 73 Joel W5ZN
> 
> 
>> I mentioned last week that we would be seeing over seas stations using US
>> based remotes stations to work K1N.  It was mentioned here that this
won't
>> happen, and that the US remote station operators monitor this activity
>> carefully and do not permit it.  Well, it is happening.  I have
personally
>> witnessed on IT9 station and one JA station using clearly NA based remote
>> stations to work K1N on 160m.  That's probably just the tip of the
>> iceberg.  It's rather obvious when they are on 160m and are 20 or 30 db
>> stronger than the din of the DX stations calling.  There will be more.
>> Incidentally, they were not signing at /W#, /K#, etc.  Realistically it's
>> probably not preventable but saddening.
>> 
>> In the meantime, I think the K1N ops are doing nothing short of a
fabulous
>> job.  Excellent Q rates, good job managing the piles, deftly QSYing to
>> dodge DQRM, all the while being quite cheerful and courteous.   Bravo!
>> 
>> 73. . . Dave, W0FLS


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