Can't resist adding my two cents...It's not up to KK6ZM to decide that
K1N is not hearing JA's and so decide that it is OK to call; that just
creates confusion and animosity from those who have the will power to
stand by. It's up to K1N to change the protocol from "JA only" to
"anyone". I don't know if K1N did that this morning or not because I
was not listening. There may have been a JA who was going to "peak" into
K1N's receiver but was missed because of KK6ZM. How many times have we
worked someone on 160 during a "2 minute opening". K1N did put some
JA's in the log this morning so KK6ZM shouldn't assume that he wasn't
going to hear more even if it took several standby's with no copy.
The K1N team has a lot of top ops there. They know better than to
disregard their own instructions. If they did, it was their mistake.
If they opened it up and KK6ZM just didn't hear them do it (maybe
because he was calling instead of listening?) then he is the one to blame.
I have no bone to pick with KK6ZM. It is unfortunate for him that he
was singled out...He may be a fine op otherwise -- but I wish everyone
would follow the DXpedition instruction and not try to manufacture their
own "rules" for when to call. It's not consistent with the DX Code.
While I understand the frustration, I also understand how difficult it
must be for the JA's to have their short window of opportunity...just
like the U.S. was frustrated with the short window to EP6T. If more
people had been quiet while they tried to work someone, more would have
gotten through. We've got to discourage people from the incessant calling.
None of us is perfect and so we make mistakes from time to time,
especially when stations are weak and "in and out" of the noise. We all
"understand" that. But there is no good excuse for calling when you are
hearing well and know full well that you are not the one whom the DX is
trying to answer.
I guess that may have been 3 cents worth instead of 2...
73, Greg-N4CC
On 2/3/2015 2:11 PM, Jim - WS6X wrote:
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It was interesting to me this morning to listen to the K1N operation attempt
to put into their log some JA contacts.
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For the most part, NA stations stood by and allowed the process to go
forward. However, one station in particular, even after being asked by K1N
to standby as he was working JA only, persisted in calling.
This is a request to KK6ZM to please listen to the instructions of the
expedition operator. Your behavior most likely precluded a number of JA
stations from being logged by K1N. This is NOT good.
73, and I hope everyone has good luck in making the grade with K1N on
Topband.
Milt, N5IA
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This is not a defense of KK6ZM -- I don't even know the guy -- but I can
assure you, he was very much aware of what he was doing. Patrick was in the
Low Band Chat Room for the duration of this morning's opening. He heard and
understood the K1N request for JA only. He also heard ~20 JAs calling. After
a few K1N calls for JA, they went back to an out-of-turn caller, K4xxx.
After that, KK6ZM waited until he was sure K1N was not hearing the JAs
before he threw in his call. He took a lot of cluster heat, but some of the
Low Band Chat guys encouraged him to keep trying. (They also heard the JA
callers who K1N was apparently not hearing.)
As I said, I know very little about KK6ZM, but I DO know this... When I
still lived in CA, on 160, he "out-heard" me 10:1. This morning he was
hearing K1N and the JAs very well. He was not being a deliberate bozo. It
was not until K1N rewarded the K4 for out-of-turn calling that he tried his
luck.
Say what you want to about KK6ZM. In my opinion, K1N shot himself in the
foot when he didn't follow his own in instructions.
Now for my little vent... Nah, it ain't worth it! :o)
Jim, WS6X
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