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Re: Topband: Rig Comparisons

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Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Comparisons
From: Paul Christensen <w9ac@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 10:58:39 -0400
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Tom,  

Also consider a situation where a solid-state transceiver is driving a class B 
amp with, for example, -20 dBc 3rd order IMD -- and that IMD is much worse than 
the driving transmitter. In that case ADP is correcting IMD products where IMD 
is generated primarily from the amp. 

Paul, W9AC 

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> On Aug 3, 2014, at 10:25 AM, "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com> wrote:
> 
> You¹ll final several references of ANAN users who have improved internal
> transceiver shielding so that RF detection comes only from the sample port
> and not internal leakage.  Otherwise, the ADP algorithm is trying to
> simultaneously correct for non-linearity of two amplifiers (internal and
> external) and not just one  < when only the external amp requires IMD
> optimization.  >>>>>>>>>
> 
> I know Paul knows how it works, but the explanation was incorrect.
> 
> The bulk of distortion is almost always, with the exception of a few radios 
> and amplifiers, from the transceiver. Most external amplifiers, with the 
> exception of the common poorly designed tetrode systems and low voltage solid 
> state amps, are significantly more linear than the exciter. A grounded grid 
> triode amplifier using 8877 tubes, or even 811A tubes, is significantly 
> cleaner than most radios (even when the amplifier is being hammered). The 
> general exception are tetrodes with improper screen and bias regulation that 
> lack the heavy negative feedback of grounded grid amps, or the rare radios 
> with exceptional transmitter linearity.
> 
> Distortion correction *must* include the exciter, but it must be at the 
> antenna port.
> 
> Unwanted coupling from the exciter does not cause the ADP system to correct 
> the exciter. Unwanted coupling introduces a sample that is not representative 
> of what is actually on the antenna port. This effect is commonly observed 
> when we try to monitor our own transmitters with other receivers at the 
> operating position. We often hear hum, noise, distortion, and artifacts that 
> are not on the antenna line.
> 
> 73 Tom 
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