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Subject: Topband: 5/8 vertical
From: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:36:39 -0800 (PST)
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Hi Bruce,
Well, it is horses for courses... The biggest problem for the DX oriented ham 
with a 5/8 wave will be the very high, and very big (only -5dB) secondary lobe, 
bringing in a ton of monky chatter when you try to listen on it... The second 
problem is the main lobe centered at 9 degrees... He would be better served by 
a half wave IMO...
 
I have a half wave 40 meter vertical, bototm fed against a radial field... Its 
main lobe is centered on 12 degrees with no higher angle responses... It can be 
a killer antenna for opening the band and closing the band... But it is down 
from the high dipoles the rest of the evening...  During  CQWW the VK/ZL path 
was better on the dipole during the early morning hours...  Interestingly, at 
times I hear better on the vertical because it suppresses the high angle monkey 
chatter much more than the lower angle DX signal, so I often port the vertical 
to the sub receiver and use the dipole on the main rx/tx... I also use a 
quarter wave vertical on 40 and every once in a while that is the best antenna 
for the propagation...  
 
On 80 I have a two element vertical array with quarter wave elements pointed 
into Europe...  That has a higher wave angle than my 40 meter half wave... Even 
then, this is the array to open the band... The rest of the night the high 
dipoles shine...  But during that 40-60 minute period the verticals really take 
over...
 
As far as discussing ground radials and elevated radials - completely separate 
issues, each with their own requirements...
 
I would be interested to hear more details on your 80 array, being I love to 
mess with antennas...  PM me, if you want...
 
cheers, eh wot.
denny / k8do


      
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